Episode 258 – Joe Kalil, Brandon Combs, Frank Fiamingo, John Pierce

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Wednesday, August 6th, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
John: I’m John Richardson, and on tonights show we’ll talk with Joe Kalil from the organization Protect Our Students and Teachers.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we have Brandon Combs with us from the Firearms Policy Coalition.
Paul We also talk with Frank Fiamingo of NJ2AS about The Shaneen Allen situation, and of course we have our weekly news and stories of defensive gun use, so climb aboard.
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 258 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1- Personal news from each participant

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Rob- My article about Shaneen Allen was mentioned on Armed American Radio with Mark Walters.

John – Nothing new with me other than work has suddenly gotten really busy. I shouldn’t complain as busy means more money as I’m on commission.

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Rob- Police work is hard, and I hate it when the police get it wrong.  LA county deputies were looking for Cedric Ramirez.  Ramirez was wanted for parole violations.  Ramirez saw the deputies and fled.  He also shot at them.  He fled through a stranger’s home.  When one of the occupants tried to escape, the occupant was shot three times by one of the deputies.  The father of eight died at the scene.  This is the second time this year that LA county sheriffs deputies shot the wrong person in a hostage situation.

John- This law enforcement officer gets it.  The Harnett County, North Carolina sheriff expressed his concern about a recent spike in violent crime.  He asked residents to arm themselves.

Over a hundred people packed the Spring Hill United Methodist Church during a community meeting on crime.   Sheriff Larry Rollins told the crowd that the violence is fueled by gangs and drugs. “When I am out with my family, even though I am a cop, I don’t go anywhere without a gun.. I want my deputies at your house just as fast as they can when you got a problem, but you better be able to take care of business until we get there if you have to protect your family.”

Several speakers urged the residents to call deputies if they see something suspicious, and to keep a sharp eye out for themselves and their neighbors.

Paul –  A small town police chief is facing big time trouble after he pulled his gun out twice at city hall.  One time the pointed it toward a city councilman. Security video taken inside Blakesburg, Iowa City Hall shows Police Chief Bob Lewis pointing a gun toward a city councilman.  City Councilman Bill Hinshaw says, “It may have been a joke, but somebody who is in a position of authority…it’s something that never should have been done.”

Rob – You or I would be in jail for such behavior.  If we did that, we would lose our ability to own firearms removed for life and probably spend time in jail.

John – Do you remember the man arrested at the Phoenix airport for carrying an AR?    I gave him a hard time, and Rachel said we should wait and see what really happened.  The man was a political protester, and a doctor.  Yesterday he issued a long statement and here is part of it

“I consider myself a freedom activist and a responsible American citizen. I respect the rule of law.  I am an educated and responsible gun owner who has earned the legal right to have a concealed weapons permit. I have received extensive training in the safe handling of firearms as well as the substantial legal responsibilities that accompany firearms ownership. I enthusiastically support the rights of my fellow Americans to peacefully and responsibly keep and bear arms. I also strongly oppose the irresponsible use of firearms by anyone. I take my constitutional rights and the constitutional rights of all people very seriously, and I believe those rights need to be exercised and protected or they will be lost.

“I am a political activist.  My purpose in walking around the airport with my AR-15 rifle was to make the point that a peaceful citizen can openly and responsibly carry a firearm – including an AR-15 – for the protection of themselves and their community. I wanted to help educate the public and employees at the airport on this point by allowing them to observe a peaceful person responsibly carrying an AR-15 while doing things that people normally do there, like waiting and drinking a coffee.

“I chose to make this lawful political demonstration at the airport because there are few places in our society where the contrast between our liberties and their erosion is so stark. On the one side of a line on the floor, in the shopping area, we are relatively free, and can safely keep and bear arms. On the other side of that line we have the TSA, a large federal bureaucracy which completely disarms people and subjects them to gross invasions of their privacy, simply because those people want to travel somewhere.

“As I was making this political statement, I was careful not to disturb or endanger anyone.  At all times I was extremely careful to ensure my firearm was never pointed at anyone. In addition to carefully handling my firearm, the safety was engaged at all times. I have no plans to repeat this demonstration as I believe I have now made the important point that peaceful and responsible people can safely be trusted to handle firearms, even AR-15’s, even at the airport. There is never anything to fear from peaceful responsible gun owners.  That is all I have to say.”

Rob- I thought the guy was a nut.  I was wrong and Rachel was right; I should have waited to pass judgement.

John – We can still argue if the protest was effective in changing minds to our side.

Rob- The National Shooting Sports Federation is the lobbying and research group for the US firearms industry.  They recently released a report on the trends in firearms ownership.  The report shows Gun Culture 2.0 in full bloom.

48 percent of today’s first time gun buyers are women.
Women most often purchased a gun for self defense or self-sufficiency.
Most first time gun buyers are between 22 to 30 years old and live in the suburbs.
Of all first time gun buyers, 87 percent said they bought a firearm for home-defense and 76 percent for said it was for self-defense. There is obviously some overlap.
First time buyers spent about $500 on their first gun.
The most frequent purchase was a semi-automatic handgun, followed by shotguns, and then revolvers.

John- No rifles?  This must make the appleseed instructors cry.. or work harder.

John – Our neighbors to the North are working on changing their gun laws…for the better. In late July, Canada’s Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney announced that the Government planned to introduce the “Common Sense Firearms Licensing Act” which is designed to cut red tape for legal gun owners. The new rules would create one license to both own and purchase firearms, make transporting firearms around an owner’s home province less restrictive and bar provincial chief firearms officers from denying guns from citizens under the “any reasonable condition” clause.“I am impressed by the way the firearms community and law abiding citizens are abiding by the law,” Blaney told Sun News. “For these people we need to cut red tape. … The firearms community is abiding by the law, and are exemplary citizens.”

Paul- Here is a shout out to some local activists.  An anti-gun group planned a booth at the National Night Out in Arlington Heights, a suburb in Cook County, Illinois.  National Night Out is focused on crime prevention, and is an opportunity for police and other emergency personnel to mix with local residents.  The Illinois State Rifle Association planned a counter protest.  After the event organizers heard of the counter protest, the anti- gun group withdrew their application.

Tom Gresham calls this the “don’t shrug” policy.  We will lose our rights if we sit back and accept the lies told by the anti-self-defense groups.  An activists is someone who won’t shrug and say “Someone else should fix this.”  If not you, then who?  If not now, then when?

Welcome to being an activist, Brother.

Rob- This is why I’m an activist.   20-year-old Dartmouth student says she may have to give up her Ivy League dream and drop out of school because the prestigious college won’t allow her to carry a gun — to protect herself against a predator.

Taylor Woolrich said Dartmouth administrators told her they won’t let her carry a gun on campus, even though she lives in fear of a man who has been stalking her since she was a high school student in San Diego.  Campus police asked her to stop calling them for escort service as she moves about the campus after dark.  Now she confines herself to her dorm.  She took out a restraining order. Her stalker was recently arrested after he came to her home in San Diego.

John- The stalker is 67 years old.

John- Speaking of anti-gun-groups.. you may have heard of “Nevadans for Background Checks”. The group is pushing to get a ballot measure on the Nevada ballot that would mandate background checks for private firearms sales.  With a name like that you’d think such a group was a home-grown, grassroots effort to bring more gun control to the desert. And you would be wrong. It is another astroturf effort by the Bloomberg financed Everytown Moms for Illegal Mayors. Author David Codrea did some excellent sleuthing on the group, and its ties to Bloomberg are solid. For example, the PAC registration form filed with the Nevada Sec. of State’s office lists one Tara Paone as President. Ms. Paone is one busy woman as she is also the Treasurer for Everytown as well as the Director of a similar effort in Washington State. This is just another example of how instead of being a bottom’s up movement, gun control is a top-down effort by “our betters” to put their stamp on our lives and rights.

Rob – Who knew that Bloomberg money is the fertilizer of to grow Astroturf.

John – Finally, a couple of items from Missouri – one bad and the other good. Listeners may remember that in Episode 255 we reported on the efforts by Mayor Sly James to ban open carry within the city limits of Kansas City. Last Thursday, the KC City Council voted 9-0 to officially ban open carry within its city limits. This ban may be short-lived as the MO Legislature will meet in September to decide whether to override Gov. Jay Nixon’s veto of a bill that would have prohibited KC’s actions.

Paul- Now for the good. Yesterday, voters in the Missouri voted by a 2-1 margin to approve Amendment 5 which declared that the right to keep and bear arms is an “unalienable right” and that state government if obligated to uphold it. The fair ballot language that accompanied the ballot said: A “yes” vote will amend the Missouri Constitution to expand the right to keep and bear arms to include ammunition and related accessories for such arms. This amendment also removes the language that states the right to keep and bear arms does not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.” Approval of the measure led Bloomberg’s Moms to say that it was “a gun lobby-backed proposal that could gravely undermine public safety.”

Rob- I guess if you are an astroturf organization you wouldn’t know real grassroots action even if it bit you. And congratulations to the people of the Show Me State for standing up for their gun rights.

John – The amendment also mandates strict scrutiny.

John- Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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John Pierce- http://johnpierceesq.com  NFA lawyer.  Could DC impose an anti-gun carry permit system and remain within the judge’s ruling?

Politicians spoke publicly for a restrictive policy.  Not as restrictive a Maryland’s policy.

Brandon Combs- Tell us about the Firearms Policy Coalition.  What is going on in California anti-gun legislation?  AB 1014, SB 808, SB 53, SB 580

How do we find out more?  www.demandrights.org

Frank Fiamingo- Apply national attention to New Jersey Governor Chris Christie for the unjust prosecution of Shaneen Allen.  Look for Frank on Kenn Blanchard’s Black Man With a Gun, Tom Gresham on GunTalk, and Mark Walters at Armed American Radio.  Go to NJ2AS.com and click on Shaneen’s picture.  Also, call Governor Christie at 609-292-6000.

Joe Kalil from Protect our Students and Teachers.

Segment 4 DGUs

Paul- Burglars will often return to a house they’ve robbed and try to rob it again.   A home in Stanton, Delaware was vacant and being repaired.  Neighbors said it had been broken into, and taken over for parties.  The female homeowner and her son arrived at 6 AM Tuesday morning and found someone inside her home.  The intruder fought with the homeowner.  Fortunately, the homeowner was armed.  She shot the assailant once in the lower body, and the assailant fled.  Police found him in a near by trailer park.  He was captured and is awaiting charges.

One neighbor said “It’s awesome. If someone was going to break into my house I’d want to do the same thing. You’ve got to protect yourself.”

Rob- A Norristown, Pennsylvania resident was awakened at 1:30 AM as 22 year old Daryl Marquis Evans was pounding on his door.  The homeowner brought his gun with him as he answered.  As the door opened, Evans pointed his gun at the homeowner and and started making demand.  The homeowner fired six times, striking Evans in the chest, pelvis and leg.  Evans fired once, but the homeowner was not reported as injured.  Evans died at the scene.  Evans was a convicted felon and was wanted on outstanding warrants for drugs and robbery in Montgomery County at the time of the shooting. The DA said he would not file charges against the homeowner.

John- Three men came to a home in Wellington, Florida seeking the homeowner’s son.  The homeowner met them and they argued.  One of the men presented a knife and threatened the homeowner with it.  The homeowner presented his firearm and shot the assailant.  The three men fled to Palms West Hospital, one of them with a non-life-threatening gunshot wound.  They were taken into custody and the wounded suspect was then taken to St. Mary’s Hospital.  Criminal charges are pending against all three of the suspects.

Rob- Who is going to say it?

Paul- I will.  Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

Paul- It was late morning when four masked men tried to rob a Baltimore, Maryland business at gunpoint.  The business owner drew his own gun and shot one of the robbers in the leg.  All four fled and police recovered the handgun that did not belong to the business owner.  None of the customers or store employees were hurt.

Rob Comments- more than one assailant.  bad shot placement.  we don’t know if the business owner had the firearm on him or had to retrieve it from under the counter.

Rob- Don’t mess with these brothers.  They both operate bodegas in New Haven, Connecticut.  One store was robbed by a gunman carrying a rifle.  While the police were at the first store, the store owner got a call from his brother saying he had been robbed as well, only this time the store owner defended himself.  The police rushed to the second store.  An ambulance transported the thief to Yale-New Haven hospital where he was pronounced dead.

John- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Email from TJ:

Hi Paul,

You seem to be a very religious man, but you also seem to be a very respectful and logical man, so I feel asking you this should get an explanation, other than pure feelings and emotion. If you chose not to address it, I respect your decision.

In the Declaration of Independence, it’s stated that all men “are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights”, but, as an atheist, my question is this: Who endows me my unalienable rights? I know we hear the argument of “God-given rights”, but what about the rest of us that don’t believe?

Religion seems to go hand-in-hand with a lot of gun owners’ ideals, but I guess I am in some sort of gray area in my political beliefs. That’s why I think the two-party system is nuts. You can’t just lump people into two perfect, cookie-cutter categories.

Thank you Paul,

TJ Gauthier
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Rob- Comment- You are endowed with rights by your nature. You are endowed with rights because of of the type of creature you are.
John – Even though the Declaration referred to god given rights, I think philosophers refer to them as natural law and natural rights.

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Episode 256 – More Palmer vs DC News

Rob: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Wednesday, July 30th, 2014. I’m Rob Morse.

Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we have our self-defense news.

John: I’m John Richardson, and we’ll talk about defensive gun use.

Rachel: so climb aboard

John: strap in

Rob: and hang on!  Episode 256 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.

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John – I’ve registered for GRPC, booked my room, and bought my plane ticket.

Rob- Is Barb joining you this year?

Life is in the way of training.  I’ve been boxing up a few thousand pounds of books as we do some home repairs.  Went to a gun store while a friend bought a small Walther for his wife.

Rachel- Not much action on guns or politics – mostly just turning things down because I’m too busy. I *have* gotten some planning done for an introductory firearms course I’m teaching at a girls’ camp I’m leading next week.

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John – The District of Columbia was granted a stay in the Palmer case. While they had requested a 180-day stay, Judge Frederick Scullin, Jr. only granted them 90 days. The plaintiffs had previously said they wouldn’t object to a 90-day stay IF the city used that time to  enact remedial legislation within that time that was consistent with Constitutional standards.

Residents and visitors to DC did have a couple of days in which they could provide for their self-defense before the decision was stayed.  As we discussed on Saturday, the city is weighing its options and could very well appeal the decision.

Rob- I had a few thoughts on this.

  • I learned that one of the defendants in the Palmer case did not live in DC.  That is why the judge ruled that visitors retain the right of self-defense when they visit DC.  The judge therefore required that DC grant reciprocity so non-residents can carry.  That moves us much closer to universal reciprocity.
  • The DC law that was struck down regulated concealed carry.  DC still has bizarre laws about magazine capacity.  Unless I’m a registered DC gun owner, it remains illegal for me to have a spent cartridge case somewhere in my car because that is an unlawful ammunition component.  Of course I can’t register my firearm unless I’m a DC resident    I assume those crazy laws still stand and are ready to trap any gun owner passing through DC.  Travelers beware.
  • Another thought is that it took five years to get a judicial decision.  Too bad it didn’t take four years for the judge to grant a stay.

Rachel- Nothing bad happened on the one evening when DC residents could legally take their guns for a walk?  The Potomac River did not run red with blood?

No

No gun owners from Pennsylvania and Virginia robbing the disarmed people of DC?

No

No columns of smoke rising from the armed riots?

No

No guys running around like Mad Max and the Apocalypse?

Not that I’ve seen.

I didn’t think so.  I guess DC was a little like Texas for a few hours.

John- DC was more like North Carolina, because we can open carry.

Rachel- We try to bring you accurate news affecting self-defense.  We do not bring you propaganda or fantasies.  It looks like the National Broadcasting Corporation does exactly that.  The anti-gun media couldn’t let the defensive gun use story of Psychiatrist Silverman go unchallenged.  NBC ran a hit piece masquerading as news where they interviewed psychiatrists about the efficacy of armed self-defense.  Here are the money quotes.  The headline was “ Experts say Psychiatrists with Guns Likely More Harmful Than Helpful”.  From the article, quote “The idea of a psychiatrist having a weapon in his desk is entirely new to me. I haven’t heard of anything like it before.”  “My guess is that arming psychiatrists is more likely to be harmful than helpful.”  close quote.

There is no need to for these so-called experts to remain ignorant or offer us their guesses.  We have many years of self-defense experience under real-world conditions.  At worse, the data shows that armed citizens cause no harm, and save lives at best.  A psychiatrist claiming otherwise is.. crazy.

Comments – Doctors, heal yourself first.

Rob- If you say stupid gun laws in Burlington, I’d think of the Burlington, Vermont city council.  Had you said Burlington, Iowa, well you’d be right too.  The Burlington City Council considered regulations demanding city permission for children to have toy guns, replica guns and BB guns in public.  Violators would be subject to a 500 dollar fine.  It would  also demand that toy guns be carried in a gun case when transported in a car.   The excuse was that it was better to outlaw toy guns than train police to determine opportunity, intent, and capability rather than shoot on sight.  This is extremely strange because we require Iowa concealed license holders to determine opportunity, intent, and capability on a daily basis, and we think nothing of it.  The Des Moines County Attorney is probably at fault for tolerating this stupidity, though the regulation was finally voted down by the city.

John We recently reported on the case of Dr. Lee Silverman, a psychiatrist in the Philadelphia area, who used a personal handgun to end an attack in a hospital. He had been shot and a co-worker killed by the psychotic gunman. We speculated at the time whether or not Dr. Silverman would be fired. Good news – he won’t. Here is the statement from Mercy Health Systems on their Facebook page:

“We are thankful for the swift action of Dr. Lee Silverman, Dr. Jeffrey Dekret, John D’Alonzo and the other colleagues and visitors who took brave and difficult action during yesterday’s tragic event. We extend our condolences to Theresa Hunt’s family, and we are praying for Dr. Silverman’s speedy recovery. We look forward to Dr. Silverman’s return to serving patients at our hospital. We will do all we can to support the victims during this difficult time.

We continue to work with the Delaware County authorities to understand fully the details of the event. We are reviewing our policies and procedures to ensure a safe environment. We are committed to serving as a compassionate and healing presence in our communities, and we are grateful for the outpouring of community support.”

Rachel-  The patient had a gun because he was a crazy criminal.  The doctor had a gun because he wasn’t a crazy criminal.  The gun grabbers want the doctor disarmed so only crazy criminals have guns.  Does that make you feel safer?

Rachel- There is a culture change about the right of people to defend themselves.  The female host on The View ran an anti-gun ad from Everytown for Gun Safety.  They agreed it was an extremely emotional and effective ad showing a mother being shot during a custody dispute.  The conversation didn’t stop there.  Three of the hosts went on to say they had or wanted a gun in their home for protection.  They experienced the fear of a break-in or a stalker, and they wanted more than a phone for protection.  They counselled the one host who was afraid of guns with children in the home.  “Lock it up, and take a class to learn how to use it, but get a gun.”

Rob- Yes, we are bragging.  I saw an article in the Washington Post where they finally covered the story of Beretta moving from neighboring Maryland to Tennessee.  We covered that story weeks ago.  Use small words and talk slowly when you explain a story to the Washington Post.

Rachel- Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange is taking some heat for existing firearms legislation.  The AG supports legislation to ban the open carry of firearms in polling places. There were at least three cases where people open carried at the polls for the recent primary election.  That was when the Attorney General’s Office advised that government buildings that already ban guns can prohibit them when those locations double as polling places but the decision on whether to allow guns rests with the owners when voting takes place in churches or other private property.  Strange added that whatever stands he takes on proposals before the Legislature, he has to make sure they are constitutional. He cited a court ruling in the District of Columbia over the weekend striking down a law prohibiting people from having guns in public.

Rob- This sounds like either gun owners being stupid by open carrying at the polls, or anti-gun citizens deliberately provoking more gun regulations.  But wait, there is more.

Rachel- Phoenix police officers arrested a 54-year old man Friday after he pointed his AR15 rifle in the direction of two people at Sky Harbor International Airport.  The Tempe, Arizona man told officers he went to Sky Harbor International Airport to buy a cup of coffee and had no other business at the airport.  This gun owner has been at the airport with his rifle before.  In November 2013, several people alerted officers a man armed with an AR15 was standing in the baggage claim area apparently waiting for a passenger to arrive. At that time, the man was not charged; he did not commit a crime by simply carrying the weapon into the common area of the airport.   The recent incident was different because he took the rifle from his shoulder and muzzled two people.  The 54-year old gun owner now faces two counts of disorderly conduct with a weapon which is a felony.  I bet there is video that shows what our gun owner did.

Rob- I want gun owners to be great ambassadors.

John- Oklahoma lawmakers say that colleges and universities would be safer if students, faculty and staff were allowed to carry on campus.  University administrators disagree.  Rep. John Enns and Sen. Ralph Shortey argue that licensed gun owners should be able to protect themselves on state campuses. Enns said statistics show 20 percent of students will be assaulted at some point during their four years on campus. “I hear from a lot of parents of college kids, and I hear from college kids, as well,” he said. For anyone to say our college campuses are safe, that’s totally not true.” Currently, a licensed gun owner can carry a weapon on campus only with the written consent of the college president.

Oklahoma listeners, and those who have children who might attend Oklahoma schools should weigh in with their support.  Gun free zones are not safe for children.

Rob- It sounds like your voices were heard by Washington DC legislators.  Gun retailers are no longer on a hit list deemed “high risk” by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.  Federal banking regulators formally removed firearms dealers and manufacturers from the list of “high risk” industries being punished as part of the Obama administration’s “Operation Choke Point.”  Richard Osterman, the agency’s acting general counsel, admitted to the American Banker newspaper Monday that the no fund list had been “misinterpreted” by financial institutions… “If you empower the government to pick winners and losers within lawful enterprises, then there’s no place to stop.”

John- Rob, it could have been us.. or it could have been the porn industry shutting down “operation choke point”.  The political results aren’t that clear cut.

John- Connecticut gun owners are getting active and not taking gun restrictions lying down.  After spending a year holding protests and challenging the law through the court system, politically active gun owners in Connecticut have focused their efforts on the Aug. 12 primary.  They want to help Greenwich businessman Tom Foley defeat state Senate Minority Leader John McKinney in the race for the Republican nomination to run for governor. Republican Senator McKinney enraged gun owners with his soft support of armed self-defense.  Scott Wilson is founder and the president of the Connecticut Citizens Defense League and we’ve had him on the Polite Society Podcast before.  Wilson said  “we’re eager to see John McKinney out of this race as soon as possible.”   80 members of the Connecticut Citizens Defense League became voting delegates to the Connecticut Republican Party convention where the party chose Foley over McKinney.

North east gun owners have a few weeks to get busy.

Rachel- You can have a bad day in a gun friendly state.  The cops raided the wrong house in Portsmouth, Virginia.  The homeowner saw a bunch of guys dressed in black on his front porch.  Then one of the uninvited visitors pointed a rifle at the homeowner and painted a laser on the homeowner’s shirt.  The homeowner got his gun and shot through the window, and ran out the back.  That is when police identified themselves and the homeowner dropped his gun.  The police pressed charges against the homeowner, and a jury threw the charges out. Now the  homeowner is free to sue the city.

Rob-I hope the homeowner wins a huge lawsuit.  This swat team should be fired along with their supervising officer.

John- Gun Quotes- “The maintenance of the right to bear arms is a most essential one to every free people and should not be whittled down by technical constructions.”    – Supreme Court of North Carolina, in State v. Kerner, 1921. This is the decision that is the basis for the right of North Carolinians to open carry firearms in the state.

John- Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this

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Segment 4 DGUs

Rachel-  A Madison County [TN] homeowner shot a 16-year-old boy who was breaking into his house, wounding the teen, according to the Sheriff’s Office. About 10 a.m. Sunday, the Madison County Sheriff’s Office received a 911 call about the burglary in progress in the 1400 block of Denmark-Jackson Road. The investigation revealed that the homeowner saw a young man walk past his front window, the Sheriff’s Office said in a news release. A short time later the homeowner heard tapping at the back bathroom window. He then saw a brick being thrown through the window. As the burglar was entering the bathroom window, the homeowner shot at him, authorities said. Deputies came across the young man while canvassing the area. He had two gun shot wounds to the arm and was taken to a local hospital. He was charged with aggravated burglary. They are still looking for another burglar.

Rob- Ayatollah Mohammad was charged with domestic violence on Tuesday.  By Wednesday, the police removed Mohammad from a home in Locust Fork, Alabama where his ex-girlfriend lived.  Mohammad didn’t take the hint.  It appears Mohammad walked the seven miles back to the home to resume his attack.  The ex-girlfriend’s son was on the scene, and the 14 year old son shot Mohammad when he came at his mother.  The case will be presented to the grand jury but no charges are expected.

John – I will admit to being a little conflicted about this next DGU. Five men were seeking to elude police in Linn County, Iowa. They were being chased by police when they crashed into a Solon resident’s front yard and took off on foot. Two bystanders, Tim Moore and Scott Eastwood, who lived in the neighborhood saw them hiding drugs and a firearm in Moore’s yard. Eastwood, a CCW holder, and Moore then chased them down in a pickup truck, listened to their false story, played along with them, and when they got them into the truck, Eastwood held them for cops at gunpoint. Police soon arrived to take them into custody and the five were charged with interference with official acts with injury on a peace officer. Other charges may be pending.

Rachel – Benjamin Beaudoin, 34, of Mendota Heights, Minnesota ended up bloody after he botched a home invasion. That should have been his lesson. However, he then decided to invade the home of 72 y.o. Ethel Himes in Ray, a far northern Minnesota town, and he began to choke the elderly lady. Her son, Brad, came upon the scene and went to get his handgun. He was followed and attacked by Beaudoin. He was able to stop the attack by shooting and killing Beaudoin. No charges have been filed against Mr. Himes. Beaudoin’s family is saying he had a traumatic brain injury as a teen and was a recovering alcoholic who was struggling with powerful migraine headaches and an undiagnosed mental illness. This supposed brain injury did not stop Beaudoin from graduating both high school and Bemidji State University with a degree in … psychology.

John-  Robbery is dangerous, even if there are four thieves trying to rob one man.  It is dangerous because you never know who is behind the counter of the store you’re trying to rob.  In this case, three men and a get-away driver waited in their white SUV for the store manager to arrive with small bills from the bank.  They attacked the store manager as he stepped from his car at this Houston Convenience store/gas station.  Mayura Dissanyake works as a store clerk, but he didn’t stand and watch.  Instead, he jumped in and beat three of the criminals.  When he isn’t selling coffee and gasoline, Mayura is a semi-professional fighter in mixed martial arts.  After the other thieves drove off, Mayura beat one of the thieves so he would stay still until the police arrived.

Rob- That clerk is always armed, though not with a firearm.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Listener e-mail discussion

Rachel- This in from a listener in Arizona.

I was aware of the NRA, and joined a couple of months ago when I decided to support gun-ownership and gun-rights. I had heard of the Second Amendment Foundation, but had no idea it was as important as the NRA, or, in light of Saturday’s court ruling, I had no idea of the important work it is doing and the results it is getting until now.

Therefore, seeing its monumentally effective endeavors , I joined the SAF yesterday. I encourage everyone to do the same. It’s the most important issue of our time here in the USA, and if want to keep ourselves educated, safe and free Americans, we all need to support those who can best accomplish the tasks at hand. And, it’s surprisingly inexpensive to become a member. 5 years for only $50 to get our Constitutionally protected rights restored? It’s a real deal, folks.

Regards,

Ken Silva

Phoenix, AZ

the NRA, GOA, and SAF are different organizations.

Rob- Thanks to listeners Greg Tabor and Anthony Lucafo for their news and DGU tips.  It is great to have you at our back.

Rob- The Polite Society download app is outon Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes and it is called Podcast Box.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

John- Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Go to Cornered Cat dot com for more classes and details.

Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

By the time this episode goes online, I’ll have another article out that compares how New Jersey lets millionaire sports celebrities go free after they assault someone, and how New Jersey jails single moms who drive through their state with a legal firearm.  That is third-world justice.  The article will be up at Clash Daily, at Ammoland and at my blog.

John, do you have anything on your blog, Only Guns and Money you want to tell our listeners about?

Impressions on the win in Palmer v. DC.

Rachel- Look at the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Subscribing from the link in our show notes helps Bob and Ben as well as helps us here at the Polite Society Podcast.

Join your local civil rights group like theNew Jersey Second Amendment Society,Arizona Citizens Defense League,Gun Owners of California, Commonwealth Second Amendment,  Connecticut Citizens Defense League,Florida Carry, Georgia Carry,Georgia Gun Owners,Grass Roots North Carolina,Illinois Carry, Maryland Shall Issue,  Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry, and  Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners.

There are Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance,  Nebraska Firearms Owners Association,   Citizens for a Safer New Jersey,New York State Rifle & Pistol Association,  Open Carry Texas, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association, Virginia Citizens Defense League, Virginia Open Carry,  West Virginia Citizens Defense League, wisconsingunowners.org, and Wyoming Gun Owners.

For our Canadian listeners, and their supporters, join theCanadian Shooting Sports Association and theCanadian National Firearms Association.  If YOUR state or local organization isn’t read each episode, then send us an email and we’ll add them!

John: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  Until the weekend show…

Rob: stay safe,

Rachel: be aware,

John: and we’ll see you down the road.