Episode 285 – Joe Chetwood and George Hill

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Introduction
“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”
Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Sunday the 16th of November 2014, I’m Paul Lathrop
John: I’m John Richardson, and we note with sadness the passing of Anita Ingrao.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and in one of our DGU’s a Michigan home invader found that crime can be deadly.
Gary D: I’m Gary Daugherty we will talk to Joe Chetwood for the ask the gun doc segment
Gary H: I’m Gary Harpster Cooking and Food Packaging for Preppers.
Gary D: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 285 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1- Personal news from each participant
Paul – Truck drivers and grades. Thank you to Greg in Bremerton for making me aware of a YouTube video, although I need some of Gary’s blood pressure medicine now.
John – I did some more practice with my SIRT pistol and took some of Rob’s suggestions. Other than that, just work, blogging, and family stuff.
Rob- Lots of overtime at work.  A little dry practice at home.  I need to order some new gun parts.
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Seg 2- News

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-It is with sadness that we report the passing  of Anita Ingrao on Thursday from breast cancer. Anita was a producer, along with her fiancee Kris Koenig, of the 2nd Amendment documentary film “Assaulted: Civil Rights Under Fire.”  The  memorial service will be held for her on Monday in Chico, California.  We knew Anita from her work in the right of self-defense.  She also loved the stars.  She and Kris produced a film “400 Years of the Telescope”, and together, they ran observatories.  Contributions are suggested in lieu of flowers to the Anita Ingrao Memorial Fund at the North Valley Community Foundation to benefit the Chico Community Observatory.  www.nvcf.org

The Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission turned down a proposal to ban lead-based ammunition. By a 5-1 vote, the Commission members rejected a petition presented by Paula Brown.  Brown is a part-time raptor rehabilitator.  She collected the signatures of 53 residents and four letters of support calling for the prohibition.  There is no science that links lead ammunition with environmental lead poisoning in either animals or humans.

-What if they passed a gun law, and nobody obeyed it?  Washington gun owners plan a rally to defy the newly passed initiative 594.  The new law makes it illegal to hand a gun to a friend.  They are hoping for 5500 gun owners to break the law.. peacefully.  The civil disobedience protest is scheduled for December 13 at the capitol in Olympia, Washington.  Spokesmen for the Washington State police said the protesters would not be charged with violating I594, but asked them to stay safe and follow the firearms safety rules.

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Colt Defense is reported to be in severe financial trouble. A $10.9 million interest payment is due on Monday may be missed. If they still can’t pay the interest due by mid-December they will be in default on their $248 million bond. Bond holders could then demand immediate payment of the total debt.  According to filings with the SEC, they are blaming their “liquidity problem” on a decline in demand for the Modern Sporting Rifles and handguns. Colt Defense is the parent company of Colt’s Manufacturing Company and Colt Canada.

-Captain Jack McCauley had a good career in the Maryland State Police.  He was often promoted and moved to demanding positions.  Then something changed for Jack.  I think he lost his faith in Maryland law enforcement.  According to his affidavit from this spring’s court case, McCauley was asked a question while testifying before the Maryland House.  During testimony in the State House Judiciary subcommittee, McCauley was asked to testify if the newly enacted firearms ban would reduce crime in Maryland.   Quote “As I began to respond, I was commanded by Shanetta Paskel, the Deputy Legislative Officer for the Office of Governor Martin O’Malley, not to answer the delegate’s question.”  The trooper said he acquiesced to her request because he believed she was his superior in the administration.  Had he been allowed to answer, he would have told the delegate that the banned firearms are almost never used in crimes, that the anti-rights laws would have no effect on mass shootings since stricter mental health protections were far more effective.  Now he says “My goal is to educate the public, because the mainstream media and the governor’s office are intentionally lying to people,”

After the hearing, Ms. Paskel explained why she ordered McCauley not to answer.  The testimony “was not about policy; it is just [about] votes.”

-There is more news about Maryland assault on civilian long guns.  21 State Attorneys General filed an amicus brief opposing Maryland’s gun ban.  The brief was filed in the U.S. Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in the case of Kolbe v. O’Malley.  The States Attorneys said Maryland’s Firearm Safety Act violates citizens’ rights to keep and bear arms by imposing a ban on the possession of commonly-used weapons.  They also said Maryland law must be subject to strict scrutiny because its restrictions extend to possession of a protected weapon by a law-abiding citizen for self-defense in the home.

-The Ohio Senate had hearings this week on several bills to change the state’s gun laws.  One bill provides legal protections for residents defending themselves during violent attacks.

It would rescind Ohio’s law which requires a person to retreat before using deadly force in self-defense.  The bill’s sponsor said, Quote “The bill would allow a lawful carrier of a firearm to defend themselves so long as the person is assaulted in a place where he or she has the right to be. A person facing a life threatening situation should not have a duty to flee and hope for the best; they should have the right to protect themselves and protect their loved ones.”  The bill would also reduce the mandatory safety training from 12 hours down to four hours to get a concealed carry license.  It allows people serving in the military to retain their concealed carry licenses and accommodate out-of-state firearms purchases.  It also requires Ohio to recognize concealed handgun licenses issued by states that recognize Ohio’s license holders.

-Anti-rights politicians are off the chain in Missouri.  State House Democrats introduced an anti-gun bill which would turn gun owners into criminals by banning semi-automatic firearms.  Quote, “Any person who was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:
(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;
(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.
Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.
This is forced civilian disarmament.

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-Elections have consequences.  After this last election, the NRA publicly said there is “absolutely no scenario” in which they would endorse Senate majority leader Harry Reid in 2016.  The NRA refused to endorse Reid in 2010.  Reid’s push for gun control since his last election has made endorsement impossible.  Quote “Given his actions, votes, and full-throated support of the Obama-Bloomberg gun control agenda, there is absolutely no scenario where the NRA would endorse Senator Reid.”  Nevada firearms owners supported Reid’s opponent, Sharron Angle, in 2010, but the NRA never got onboard.  Some insiders felt the NRA favored Senator Reid in order to keep Chuck Schumer from replacing him as Majority Leader in the Senate.

-Maybe this is news about news, but Jeff Knox posted an article at World Net Daily.  Jeff talks about injured veterans being denied their right to own a gun because of their injuries.  I don’t mean one or two veterans.  More than 100,000 vets lost their second amendment rights because of their VA classification.  Jeff noticed that US Representative Gabby Giffords has not been forcibly disarmed after her traumatic brain injury.  There are clearly two sets of rules at play.  One set of rules is for the politically favored and another set of rules is for the people who have to pay their own legal bills.  We’ll have Jeff on the Wednesday show to talk about his article.

-Jeff Knox is from Arizona, and so is this next story.  We covered the brutal murder of a real estate agent in Arkansas.  The agent was targeted because she was a woman who often worked alone.  That prompted many real estate agents to apply for their carry licence.  This particular group of Keller Williams agents consists mostly of women, and they spent a day at the range rather than opening front doors and talking about closet space.  Jenny McCall sells houses in Tempe, Arizona.  “This particular house is vacant which would be something that somebody who wanted to hurt somebody would definitely look for.”  The more expensive, vacant homes in particular can attract criminals.  The agents try and double up for some calls, but that’s not always possible.  Now they carry concealed and spend a day at the range to brush up on their skills.

Quote, “Because we deal with such a wide variety of real estate from the high-end stuff.. all the way down to the very lowest of low..  we never know what we’re walking into,” said Kevin Craig. Some ranges in Tempe now offer monthly self-defense courses for realtors.

-A gun owner is suing the Atlanta Botanical Gardens after he was escorted off the property because he was openly carrying a permitted gun. Phillip Evans and GeorgiaCarry are bringing the lawsuit.  The Botanical Gardens allow “no weapons except as permitted by law.”  Since open carry by licensed firearms owners is legal in Georgia, Evans visited the gardens while armed.  Evans wasn’t questioned about his holstered firearm in October.  Evans came back to the gardens a week later with his wife and two children, again openly wearing his gun in a holster.  This time the management of the Botanical Gardens told him he could not have his gun with him. The police were called and Evans was escorted to his car.  The Botanical Gardens is a private organization and it operates on 30 acres it leases from the city of Atlanta.  The private organization can not deny citizens the right to tools of self-defense on the public property they use.

-Sometimes it takes a lawsuit to make the police follow the law.  A legal resident tried to get a carry permit in Boston.  The police told him he must provide either a US birth certificate or naturalization papers.  Phuong Ngo, and the group Commonwealth Second Amendment, sued the Boston police department.  The city folded.  Now the Boston Police accept passports from legal residents as documentation in the concealed carry application process. Thank you Mr. Ngo and Commonwealth Second Amendment.

-We love it when a police department promotes real firearms safety.  The Caddo Parish Sheriff’s Office, in Louisiana made us smile.  Registration is open for their “first gun” class intended for children from 8 to 12 years of age.  The four-hour class is offered in early December and early January.  The course provides basic instruction for children who may never have fired a gun but want to be able to use one safely. It’s also recommended for kids who will receive a new BB gun, shotgun, or hunting rifle for Christmas.  The Sheriff’s training academy will provide firearms if the children don’t have any.  Children are welcome to bring their own firearms like BB guns, pellet guns, .22 rifles, and small caliber shotguns, but not high-powered rifles.  BBs and 22 ammunition will be supplied.  All children will shoot at both fixed targets and skeet.  The class is free.

-A North Carolina gun shop ran an ad on Facebook.  The advertisement read-  “Shop Online and choose from the area’s largest selection of safes and vaults… on sale now through November 15!”   The ad was taken down by Facebook almost immediately.  Facebook said ads cannot indirectly link back to pages where guns can be purchased.  “The decision is final. Please consider this the end of our correspondence about your ad.”

The Canadian Supreme Court ruled last week that airguns are to be considered firearms for all purposes in the Canadian criminal code except for registration and licensing. Thus, airguns will be subject to the same criminal code provisions dealing with careless storage of firearms. Moreover, provisions dealing with concealed firearms will now apply to airguns. This means if you put your airgun in a pocket or backpack you will be violating the law. Canada’s National Firearms Association says they will be seeking a legislative remedy to the problems caused by this ruling.

-The opposite is happening in Michigan.  Michigan lawmakers passed legislation loosening regulations on BB and pellet guns.  The legislation excludes guns that propel a projectile by gas, spring or air from Michigan’s firearm regulations.  Another bill would repeal a law making it a misdemeanor for a minor to possess a BB gun unless accompanied by an adult. The Michigan Senate passed a bill to prohibit local governments from regulating ownership of paintball and BB guns.  Municipalities could limit their use to authorized locations or on private property.

-You might remember our story about a one room school house in Colorado that raffled off a rifle to raise money for new playground equipment.  The library in Breckenridge, Texas is raffling off a limited edition rifle to raise money.  Tickets for the rifle can be obtained at the library for a $5 donation or five tickets for a $20 donation.  They want more computers for the library. The rifle was made by the Bold Ideas facility, located in Breckenridge.  The drawing for the winner is scheduled for noon on Monday, Dec. 1.

-Speaking of books, the Christmas season is coming.  We interviewed authors Brian Aitken and Jae Wells, so please remember them if you give books this Christmas.  We use information provided by author Stephen Wenger in every podcast.  We recommend his book, Defensive Use of Firearms. A great gift for any shooter is The Cornered Cat: A Womans Guide to Concealed Carry  By frequent guest Kathy Jackson. The links are in our show notes.

Gun Quotes
One of our regular email contributors Ken from Arizona sent in our gun quote, it comes from Winston Churchill

“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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Segment 3 Interviews

George Hill and Joe Chetwood
Joe, the gun doc
Can I re-bore my 22 without customized and expensive machine tools?
No.

Why won’t my Mosin extract a fired case?
The chamber ID is either fouled or pitted.  If cleaning doesn’t work, then hang up the gun or rebarrel it.

Rust?
Steelwool!

Where can I find parts for my Savage 99?
Numrich. and use the web.

Does Mosberg make a long rifled barrel for their 12 Ga?
Ask them.

Taurus won’t cock the trigger every time.
Could be many things.  If cleaning doesn’t work, then bring it to a gunsmith.  Try Tetragon-action blaster to clean the action.

Segment 4 DGUs
-A man broke into an indianapolis house at 2 in the morning.  The house had been broken into a day earlier, but this time the owner was home.. and the homeowner was armed.  Homeowner Howard Murphy shot 39 year old Kocho Long when the intruder moved to attack him.  Long was shot in the leg and caught by police a block away.  Long was transported to  Eskenazi Hospital and remains in stable condition.

-A Milwaukee woman was attacked in the afternoon and only a few blocks from a local police station.  Even though the police were nearby, they were still too far away to help her.  She helped herself.  A robber approached the 36 year old woman and demanded her purse and valuables.  The robber drew a gun, and so did the intended victim.  She fired several times, but apparently missed.  The police were looking for the man who ran from the crime scene.

Menominee County in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan was the scene of a home invasion on Monday. At 5am, as three young men broke in by a garage door, the 62-yo homeowner called 9-1-1. As the home invaders came in the house, the homeowner fired multiple times at them. Hayden Gagnon, 19, died at the scene. Police found his compatriots, Thomas Hartman and Matthew Franjose, after a search of the nearby woods. They both have been charged with 1st degree home invasion. The Menominee Co Sheriff said “the homeowner defended himself and his home”. While no charges are pending against the homeowner, the local DA says he plans to review the case to make sure the shooting was justified.

-You remember when the Bloomberg group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America said you don’t need a gun to go shopping.  Well, sometimes you do.  Daniel McHugh is 48 years old.  He had just walked out of a Kroger supermarket in Atlanta Georgia and got into his car.  That is when two men opened the driver side door and shot him.  Bystanders put pressure on the gunshot wound to his stomach by the time police and medical personnel arrived.  Now McHugh is fighting for his life at Grady Memorial Hospital.  He remains in critical condition.

Criminals break the law for a living.  Criminals do not obey gun laws, just as, in this case,  they refuse to obey laws against armed robbery, car theft, possession of a stolen handgun, and attempted murder.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Listener e-mail discussion

Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

Rob- I wrote about texas gun laws.  Texas denies the right of self-defense in many hospitals and churches.  They also treat some gun owners as guilty until proven innocent.  I want Texas to do better, and you know how texans get if you say Texas isn’t perfect.. yet.

Rob- John do you want to mention anything off of your blog No Lawyers – Only Guns and Money?

I did a couple of posts this week on Washington State’s I-594 and what to expect next. The first post dealt with the ultimate intentions of Bloomberg and his ilk. A post from Reddit makes the argument with which I agree that it is to kill the gun culture. My second post looked at the factors that made Washington State and now Nevada targets for universal background check initiatives. I ranked the states by those factors. The other states to keep an eye on are Arizona and Oregon thanks to the number of in-migrants from California.

Gary- NRA founded Tomorrow November 17, 1871
Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  I’d like to thank (Guests) for joining us today.  co-hosts, will you be with us next time?  I’m looking forward to it.  Until the next time…
Rob: stay safe,
Gary: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.

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Episode 257 – Joe Chetwood

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Saturday, August 2nd, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we’ll talk with Joe Chetwood of Crusader Weaponry.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse, We also have our usual self defense news
Gary: I’m Gary Harpster and we also cover todays DGU’s
Rachel: so climb aboard
Gary: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 257 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1- Personal news from each participant

Rob- Last night I spent two hours in SIRT training with a new shooter. The student lives in California but spent the last few weeks reporting from the Texas border. She had an intense interest in self-defense after that experience. I had to break the bad news to her that we live in a “may issue” county in a “may issue” state. A Utah and Florida non-resident permit will give her most of what she needs.

Rachel- You mean the old story that the police will protect you.. and that our border is secure didn’t impress her?
Rob- Well, it left an impression all right.

Paul- Our new dogs are home!
Gary Daugherty wanted me to mention that Firearm Safety Institute is holding a concealed carry class August 16th and 17th in Villa Park Illinois. this class qualifies for Arizona and Florida non resident ccw classes. runs from 9am to 5 pm, you can register through the website or call 702-557-1644.

Rachel- Getting ready for Academy 31, my girls’ camp.

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Rachel- The watchdog group Judicial Watch sued the Department of Justice.. and won.  A federal court ordered the DOJ to turn over an index of materials related to the “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal.  The Obama administration first withheld the documents by claiming they were covered by executive privilege.  The judge said the content of the documents might be covered by executive privilege, but the public has a right to know who was involved in the discussion of Operation Fast and Furious.  The court ordered a detailed listing of all documents that the DOJ withheld from Congress along with an explicit justification for each withholding.  The documents are due October first.

Paul- I wonder if the DOJ will ask for delays until after the election.

Rob- Massachusetts gun owners lost their right to purchase a long gun even if they are not a prohibited person.  Police chiefs now have the unrestricted right to deny permission before Massachusetts citizens may purchase a long gun.  In theory, police chiefs must appear in court within 90 days to defend their reasoning for the denial of a license to a certain individual.

Paul- DC appealed and was granted a stay in the case of Palmer versus DC.  This case was brought against DC because they had a blanket prohibition on citizens carrying in the district.  Now politicians will go to work on DC gun owners.  The obvious political solution is that DC will allow the police chief to deny permits to anyone she wants.  That “may issue” or “good cause” solution, as practiced in New Jersey, has repeatedly passed legal review.

DC can also apply unusual regulations when they grant reciprocity.  For example, the district could deny reciprocity to a state because the state issues a firearms license for too long a period, has different domestic violence or different drug laws than DC.  Even if the laws are similar between DC and the state seeking reciprocity, the reporting requirements might be different.  Any excuse will do when you want to deny civil rights.

Rob comment- So DC could grant an annual firearms license with bizarre training requirements?

Yep. They could also demand that ammunition be certified by the police department. All this is before DC starts creating a labyrinth of “sensitive gun free zones”.  There are many ways to undermine the rights of DC citizens to protect themselves.

Rachel- I know we report on the unusual level of violence in Chicago, but there were only 19 people shot last weekend, and 54 shot this week so far, so that hardly makes the news.

Paul- Move along.  Nothing to see here.  These are not the self-defense statistics you’re looking for.

Rob- If you go to the country, then please leave the city behind.  William Baker was walking his dogs on Friday night on his property in rural Arco, Idaho.  That is where the owner of the neighboring KOA Campground approached him about having his gun holstered on his hip.  Someone had gone to the campground’s owner and complained about Baker walking armed. The campground owner Angela Dishman said they are just doing what they think is best for their business.  “We have tenters who … were scared to death, they had children, they had pets, they had families and they were scared.”

Baker says he wasn’t a threat and he wasn’t doing anything illegal open carrying as he walked his dog.

Rachel comment-  If you want to live in your over-regulated, gated Mc-Mansion with its Home Owners Association.. then don’t go out to the countryside.

Paul Comment- I knew someone who was terrified of dogs.  I told them not to buy one.

Gun Quotes
Paul- Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Author John Bradshaw.

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Segment 3 Interview with Joe Chetwood

Segment 4 DGUs

Paul- Witnesses in Tamassee, South Carolina say Bradley Payne and a homeowner were arguing outside when Payne threatened the homeowner.  The homeowner retreated to his home and told Payne not to enter.  Payne jerked open the screen door and entered the home before being shot in the hip by the homeowner.  The homeowner called 911.  No charges were brought against the homeowner.

Rachel- A homeowner grabbed her gun when she heard someone attempting to break into her Manatee County, FL home while her husband was out playing bridge.  The suspect had used a rock to break part of the Logans’ door and they seem to have fled once they realized there was an armed person inside the home.  She said, “I don’t know what was going on in my mind. Honestly all I wanted was my gun.  When I called 911, she kept saying put the gun down. Put the gun down and I said I’ll put the gun down when I see the police.”

Rob- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Segment 5 Show close

Listener e-mail discussion

Paul- Email 1 Ken in AZ writes

Paul, I was listening to Hickok45’s latest “radio show”. He was talking about  the Civil War, and it got me to thinking. Isn’t it interesting how the firearm manufacturers were located in the Free States, 150 years ago. And today, the ones up North are leaving, and moving to the new Free States in the South. Such a coincidence that firearms are made in Free States? Maybe the South will rise again!

Ken
Phoenix, AZ

Rob Email #2 also from Ken in AZ

Paul, over the weekend, including one DGU on your show (from last week), there were 2 news items where criminals involved in home break-ins were shot by home-owners defending themselves. In both cases, the news reported the medical status of the “victims” who had been shot.

Something needs to be done to educate the news media about who isn’t a victim and who is. There’s a fundamental mind-set that’s out-of-whack and needs to be pointed out and needs to be changed when this kind of bad reporting keeps happening.

Stating what’s obvious to us, but not to the news media: The criminal isn’t the victim of the home break-in shooting.
That’s all for today.

Ken
Phoenix, AZ (free state)

Rachel e-mail # 3- This from another listener-

Below is a link to an article I found ludicrous and illustrates the extreme to which some anti-hunters are willing to go.  Thought it would make good material for your discussions.

I haven’t vetted the article to see if it is legit yet; but even if it is a hoax, it is just too good not to pass along.
Really enjoy the podcasts!
Thanks,
Randy

http://io9.com/the-radical-plan-to-eliminate-earths-predatory-species-1613342963?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Paul- Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

Rob- I wrote about “A Few Honest Men in America”.  We are our country’s conscience.  We sometimes think that the police and government determine right and wrong, but I found the thousands of times governments have turned a blind eye to mob rule.  We’ve had hundreds of cases of mob attacks and thousands of mob murders.  The article is at Clash Daily and at SlowFacts.

(DO NOT READ)The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes and it is called Podcast Box.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Look at the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Subscribing from the link in our show notes helps Bob and Ben as well as helps us here at the Polite Society Podcast.

Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Commonwealth Second Amendment,  Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Grass Roots North Carolina, Illinois Carry, Maryland Shall Issue,  Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry, and  Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners.

There are Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance,  Nebraska Firearms Owners Association,   Citizens for a Safer New Jersey,New York State Rifle & Pistol Association,  Open Carry Texas, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association, Virginia Citizens Defense League, Virginia Open Carry,  West Virginia Citizens Defense League, wisconsingunowners.org, and Wyoming Gun Owners.

For our Canadian listeners, and their supporters, join the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the Canadian National Firearms Association.  If YOUR state or local organization isn’t read each episode, then send us an email and we’ll add them!

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
Paul: and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 220 – Joe Chetwood and Miguel Gonzalez

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Intro- “An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Saturday, march 15th, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we have an interview with Miguel Gonzalez of “Gun Free Zone”
John: I’m John Richardson, and we’ll talk about self-defense news
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we have our weekly stories of defensive gun use
Joe: I’m guest host Joe Chetwood from Crusader Weaponry
Rachel: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 220 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
Show intro music.

Seg 1 Personal news from each participant

Joe Chetwood- finding my way out of boxes.

John: I just finished reading Jm Curtis’ The Grey Man: Vignettes. Jim, also known as Old NFO, blogs at the blog “Nobody Asked Me.”  The novel is Jim’s first and a great start. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes a good story that has guns interwoven through it.

Rob: I got in some dry practice with reloads and malfunction clearance.  I invited a friend over, so practice can be fun.  So was dinner, but dry practice is always a good excuse to throw a party.

Rachel: Got a CWW pin from whiskey5a today, doing online training tomorrow for Texas Firearms Freedom activists for the next convention to help move gun legislation along, and scheming for how I can clone myself so next weekend I can staff the A Girl & A Gun conference, teach at an Appleseed shoot, and be a delegate in my county convention all at the same time.

Paul is in Soux Falls and jumped home from Wisconsin.  We’re podcasting from ABN surplus.

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Paul: In Rob’s backyard, Ares Armor machines AR lowers and sells polymer lowers.  The BATF asked for its inventory and customer list.  Dimitrios Karras, owner of Ares Armor, asked for a restraining order against the ATF.. and he received it.  So far the customer list is safe.  Ares is also being harassed by a local city council for its sign that shows a modern sporting rifle.  Anti-gun bigotry is not dead in San Diego.

In late breaking news, the ATF broke into Ares Armor’s national city office and seized records. That is the real price of having a weak sheriff in San Diego County.

Rob- Idaho Governor Butch Otter signed a bill allowing people with enhanced Idaho concealed carry permits to carry firearms on state school campuses.  The law takes effect July first when anti-gun journalists forecast the streets will run with blood.  I doubt it since eight states allow some firearms onto school campuses.

John:  Retired elementary school teacher Laura Getty was diagnosed with breast cancer on Valentine’s Day. Her son Jeffrey, also a teacher, developed a lesson plan to help her conquer her fear. Since she had never fired a gun before, he took her to the Palmetto State Armory range in Greenville, SC where they live. Laura says she found it very therapeutic as all she had to do was focus on the target. Afterwards, Jeffrey sent the range a thank you note explaining the circumstances. PSA was so touched that they built up a hot pink custom AR-15 for Laura  as a gift. They also made a second one that they are raffling to raise money for her treatment. They have now put that raffle online because demand was so strong.

Rachel- Shane Kinney is an NRA member.  He is also a 16 year old and works a part time job at his local gun club.  He wore an NRA shirt to school and served a one day suspension when the school vice principal told him to turn the shirt inside out.  Shane refused.  “I’ve worn other shirts before with guns on them.  I was never asked to cover up. I think this happened because it was an NRA shirt.”  Officials at the school cited the dress code which prohibits any clothing that might incite or encourage “violent activities.”  Grand Island High School is located between Niagara Falls and Buffalo, New York.  Sounds like the school administrator flunked the Zero Tolerance for Stupid test.

Rachel – A group of over 100 Texans with CATI-TX (“Come And TAke It”) open carried their rifles and shotguns through downtown Austin during the SXSW festival again today, and I was again privileged to be among them. The light rain might have dampened our clothes and rifles, but it didn’t dampen spirits among the men, women, and children who participated. During the months that these activists have faithfully done their safe, peaceful, friendly open carry walks, the attitude of the APD has changed, and they now come out and shake our hands and even escort us to make sure no one messed with us. Hooray for peaceful, effective grassroots activism!

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On a sad note: a car plowed through barricades a couple of nights ago and killed a few SXSW participants and injured almost 2 dozen more. I guess barricades and signs don’t work so well – for banning either guns or cars….

John: We all know it is easier to ride a bicycle downhill.  It is also easier to promote a cause with a sympathetic news media to inflate your claims.  But what would the media say if they had an anti-gun rally and nobody came?  26 bicycle riders rode from Newtown Connecticut to Washington DC to carry their anti-gun message to the nations capital and provide a media moment for politicians who hate self-defense.  If you look closely at the photos of the rally, it looks like the riders and politicians were larger than the crowd.  Some of the bicycle riders said they received considerable support along the route from the New Jersey police.  Let’s see a show of hands if you’re surprised.

Anyone?

Rachel – A statewide grassroots group in California gathered over 60,000 signatures to date proposing  quote- “a state constitutional initiative ensuring the right to bear arms for all individuals and guarantee the right of all individuals to lawfully use a firearm for personal and property protection, hunting and sport shooting.” California Gun Rights is attempting to collect over a million valid signatures by the May 20 deadline. They posted downloadable copies of their petition in both legal and letter sizes for circulators to use.  California is one of only six states that lack second amendment language in their constitutions.

We have an interview with Miguel Gonzalez about the Florida bill that might permit school staff to go armed.  Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this

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Seg 3 Interview with Miguel Gonzalez from the blog “Gun Free Zone”.  Miguel talks about the Florida bill that might permit school staff to go armed and how the Miami Herald lost their mind.

Ask the GunDoc questions with Joe Chetwood.
1. I have a savage 357 over 20 ga, it has a crack on the wood near the selector switch with the piece about to come off, is there any type of glue made just for this type of repair? i don’t do anything with this gun but shoot every now and then so its not critical, just want it to look right

2. I have a pt1911 ar pistol made by taurus and the grip safety does not work. The safety is a little loose at the pin that holds it in place. If i push up on the beavertail safety right under the hammer the safety works. Has anyone had this problem with theirs and if so how was it fixed without sending it back to taurus for repairs. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

3. My Thompson SMG is now back together, but I can’t use it because the ‘headspace’ is off. Is this something that can be repaired (gun is about 25yrs old), or do I have a 45cal paperweight?

4. I have a 1911 and the front sight came off at the range and I couldn’t find it. How can I figure out what height I need if I still have the rear sight?

5. I have a TCP 380. When firing, the slide isn’t cycling and it’s not feeding the next round. Could this be a future gunsmith visit or is there something I can do myself?

6. I have a gorgeous Remington 48 sc 12 gauge. It’s not ejecting the empty shells. It pulls up a new shell but still, the empty isn’t being grabbed out. Is this a common problem with this gun?

7. Type 53 nagant sight removal. I want to remove the entire front sight so I can slide the bayonet lug off, but is the front sight mount also soldered on?
Break and Shelly Sorensen when we come back.

8. Interdynamic KG-99 pistol (9mm) with a 30 round clip. When I put the loaded clip in the weapon and rack the lever to load it, it is tossing the first cartridge out on the ground. The motion of the bolt seems to be catching the first round and tossing it out or, the motion is dislodging the first round just enough that it becomes loose enough for the magazine spring is spitting it out. Or something… Any ideas what the problem may be?

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Segment 4 DGUs

Rob: Lisa Atkin was sick in bed Wednesday morning and couldn’t go to work.  She was surprised when her three labradors wouldn’t stop barking.  Then she heard another loud noise from the front of her house and grabbed her firearm from the nightstand.  She slowly cleared her way into her home and found Joseph Baker.  She drew her weapon and told Baker to lie down on the floor while she called police.  The police arrived 23 minutes later.  The  Junction City Oregon homeowner said, “We’ve been through the Oregon Firearms Academy courses so we were trained to deal with these kinds of situations.  Twenty three minutes is a long time and while most people in town wouldn’t have to wait that long for a response, it was an incredibly quick response for where we live.” (close quote) The burglar is in the Lane County Jail facing charges of burglary, resisting arrest, menacing, and criminal mischief.

Any comments?

John:  A pizza delivery woman in Fayetteville, North Carolina made an unexpected delivery.  26 year old Ashley Marie Hurd approached a house at about 10pm and asked the man standing outside to be paid for the pizza.  A second man walked up behind her, put something against Ashley’s head and demanded money.  She drew her handgun and both suspects ran.

If I was a pizza delivery driver, male or female, in Fayetteville, I’d carry a handgun, too.

I’d also like to make a comment on this DGU. It is important to note that no shots were fired and it was the mere presence of a firearm that ended this encounter safely for Ms. Hurd.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Segment 5 Show close and listener e-mail discussion

Paul and Crew,

Got behind listening due to problems with downloading the show via itunes after the name change so these comments are over a few shows.

I. For the guy who disliked the British accent. My father didn’t care much for the British either. No idea why, something dealing with his stay during WWII. I enjoyed my too short stay in England back in the 80’s. Really fell in love with the beer, real beer; definitely not PBR. The Brits do need to take some lessons on how to season their fool Having to salt and pepper pizza to make it edible just isn’t right. I personally like the accent. Brings back memories of watching Mrs. Emma Peel in those nice leather cat suits she wore.

II. With regard to the posting of home addresses and pictures of the various congress vermin. I agree with you however we must not be too worried about taking the high road in this war. There does become a point where one must fight fire with fire. The problem is that there are very few, and mostly ineffective ways, to hold these people accountable for their malicious acts. I don’t think many states have a recall option and it is very rarely possible to hold them legally accountable for the damage and hurt they cause. Roman senators and tribunes were completely immune for their actions but at least once they left office they could be brought to account. No so with out system. They can get away with anything. Look at the disdain the state shyster Corey is getting away with in Florida.

For an interesting, and highly questionable result I suggest reading “Unintentional Consequences” by John Ross. The book is way too long and quite slow in getting started but still entertaining. I just hope it never actually comes down to that extreme. It is rather scary of how some rather radical ideas are much more commonly heard than they were just a few short years ago. In fact, if the state of Connecticut doesn’t get its act together things could quickly degenerate into something very similar and those who are truly responsible, the idiots who made the ridiculous law will never be made to really answer for all the tears that will be shed.

III. With regard to Kathy Jackson’s comments on training. I completely agree that one shouldn’t come in with the attitude that keeps them from taking suggestions on how to improve. However I don’t see the problem with people wanting validation. If one is doing something correctly I can understand them wanting conformation of that. Kind of like how you liked having your skills as a driver trainer validated. Now if they are not willing to accept correction, that is another issue.

She sounded like she really doesn’t like seeing people taking classes who seem to not really need them. Depending on the reason for that happening I don’t understand the problem. There are some who are ready and would like to take an intermediate or more advanced course but can’t due to no formal training. Many instructors and training institutions won’t let people sign up for more advanced training due to them not having any formal training. They have their prerequisites. Completely understandable but someone who managed to acquire the basic skills on their own really have no choice but to take beginning classes. They need to have their skill level formally validated if they want to continue their training. Yes, there are some, many perhaps, who just want to boost their egos, but there are some caught in the middle.

There are also those who repeat classes as a way to renew their skills. It sounded like she didn’t really like having them in her classes.

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These are just some thoughts. I thoroughly enjoy your program and look forward to each episode. Your show, along with Doc Wessons’s “The Gun Nation” are the first two I check for new episodes.

Oh, what happened to Sticks? Did I miss something?

William Harvey

Paul: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Rachel, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

Rob: That’s 605- 215- 1438605- 215- 1438

Rob: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

John: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is at Carry On Colorado starting April 4 in Castle Rock, Colorado.

There is a rally scheduled for saturday, April fifth from 12 to 3pm.  See the Connecticut Citizens Defense League.

John: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

I do.  The ninth circuit rendered a decision a month ago.  The decision was not acted on by the San Diego Sheriff.  There have been four THOUSAND violent crimes in San Diego in that month.  Judges and Sheriffs fiddle while citizens bleed.  The post was up at Clash Daily and I put it up at Slow Facts this morning.

Rachel: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Bob is giving away his M&P Shield to one lucky member.

Paul: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network, Also give our friends over at Modern Rifleman Radio a listen!

Rob: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

John: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners,Grass Roots North Carolina, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rachel: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.
Rob: since the Canadians are listening, join the CSSA and the NFA

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 213 – Valinda Rowe and Joe Chetwood

Stinger- You’re listening to the Polite Society Podcast.
Intro- Everyone knows an armed society is a polite society. This is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Wednesday, the 19th of Feburary, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rob: I’m Rob Morse, and on tonights show we have an Interview with Valinda Rowe of Illinois Carry, as well as a large collection of firearms news and defensive gun use.
Paul: so climb aboard
Rob:strap in
Paul: And hang on! Episode 213 the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Personal news from each participant

Before we go to break I have a bit of news, the Kathy Jackson class coming up on March 1st and 2nd in Centerton Arkansas is now a co-ed class! A listener got in touch with me yesterday and brought that to my attention, I called Kathy and confirmed it. So if you can get there in a week and a half get your seat now!

Also I want to put this out there. For those that are attending the Roadgunner MAG 40 class in May, I would like to see if I can “room” with someone and save a little bit of money. If you are going to be attending the class and would like to share a room to help alleviate some of the costs please email me at Paul@politesocietypodcast.com.

Rob: Hmm.  Anyone want a non-smoking room mate at the NRA convention?

Also I want to say thank you to Mark Vanderberg of the Gun Rights Radio Network.  Word came down today that for various reasons Mark is shutting down GRRN for good on the 28th of this month. When I started this show it was my intent from the beginning to get on the network, and I have made a lot of good friends on GRRN . While it was predictable that GRRN would eventually go away it still saddens me to see it go.

As well one of my shows that I catch every time it is released is going away, the Bar Stool Discussion with Mark and Doc Wesson is not going to continue and will go away when the network shuts down.

I want to say a personal thank you to Mark Vanderberg. He is a large part of the reason that the show has turned out the way it has. In the early days of the show Mark taught me a lot about podcasting and has always been just a phone call away if I needed help or advice.. or just to gripe. Mark isn’t going anywhere, he just decided that it is time for a change. I for one am a little sad to see him leave podcasting and I will miss his presence here.

Mark and Doc can come on the show anytime!
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Paul-There are four bits of good news from the Oklahoma house.  One, the judiciary committee approved bills allowing citizens with licensed carry permits to carry in the state capital.  Two, they allow licensed carry holders to leave their firearm locked in their car in elementary and secondary school parking lots.  Three, they authorized state colleges, universities and technology centers to establish general policies for permit holders to bring weapons on campus rather than requiring written permission for each individual.  Four, a separate House committee made it illegal for any federal employee or agent to enforce any federal firearms regulations covering firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition that is manufactured in Oklahoma and remains within the state’s borders.

Rob: I really wish I’d received that job offer in Tulsa.

Rob-The city of Erie, Pennsylvania can’t enforce a 38-year-old ordinance that banned firearms in city parks.  The ordinance was overturned by the state Commonwealth Court and the city did not appeal the ruling.  Now the city has to dismiss fines and convictions against eight local gun-rights activists found guilty of violating the ordinance at a rally in Perry Square last June.

Paul- Illinois lawmakers are already changing the state’s 7-month-old concealed-carry law.  This is only weeks before even the first batch of permits are sent out to approved applicants. Several proposed bills would roll back restrictions to Illinois strict carry law.  Bills would allow concealed carry in public parks, on Cook County Forest Preserve lands and on public transportation.

Senator Kyle McCarter said he wants to allow concealed firearms in public transit systems because otherwise, in high-crime areas, criminals could easily target citizens they know aren’t carrying guns. In addition to these bills, some anti rights bills have been introduced.

Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day is coming up soon, and Valinda Rowe’s interview will be running later in the show. If you live, work or travel through Illinois, then we encourage you to be at IGOLD.

Rob- From New Jersey, gun-control advocates frequently use scare tactics to mislead the public into supporting laws that unnecessarily restrict Second Amendment rights. The most stringent firearms laws in the country don’t satisfy the rabid activists there. They are pushing to lower the legal magazine size from 15 to 10. “Our top priority is a 10-round limit on magazine size,”  said Bryan Miller, executive director of Heeding God’s Call. The group’s sole purpose is to push for more gun control. Its primary tactic is to hold “prayer vigils” outside firearms stores. Mr. Miller claims, “Nobody needs a 15-round ammunition magazine unless they are a domestic terrorist or a gangster.”  However, Mr. Miller neglected to mention that virtually all law enforcement uses firearms with more than 10 rounds.

If this magazine restriction is such a good idea, then let’s start with the state police, the legislative security details, and local sheriff’s deputies.  Better yet, let the law enforcement officers go back to 6 shot revolvers.  Why would anyone need more than six shots?…  Yeah, just as I thought.

In New York, a union official said Saturday the Remington Arms Co.’s decision to open a manufacturing plant in Alabama does not bode well for Ilion, and he’s blaming New York’s SAFE Act restrictions on assault weapons. “It can’t be good,” said Fran Madore, president of United Mine Workers Local 717, which represents 1,180 of the 1,300 Remington employees in Ilion. “How can it be good?”Madore said plant officials told him they wanted to meet with him Monday. They did not say what they wanted to talk about, but Madore said he assumes it will be about the company’s reported plans to open a 500,000-square-foot manufacturing plant in Huntsville, Ala… Madore said he’s worried the company will move jobs out of Ilion, the Herkimer County village where the company has been making firearms since 1816.

-A failing newspaper in Connecticut called for state police to prosecute and incarcerate the hundreds of thousands of gun owners who refused to register their firearms and ammunition magazines.  This is in a state that already releases violent criminals due to prison overcrowding.  Our colleague David Codrea suggests Connecticut gun owners give the advertisers of the Hartford Courant a phone call and share their low opinion of the papers liberal editorials.  Dear listeners, there are many more of us than there are of them, so it is time Connecticut gun owners woke up and made themselves heard.
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Paul- Alabama Senator Scott Beason proposed a bill to allow drivers in Alabama to carry a loaded firearm in their car without a carry license.  Alabama currently permits unloaded carry in cars, but Senator Beason’s bill extends the castle doctrine to a person’s automobile — the thought being that you may have nowhere to retreat if you’re attacked in your car.

Rob -In the last step of the legislative process, the Virginia State Senate repealed a 19th Century Blue Law that outlawed hunting on Sunday. The House of Delegates passed the bill in January, but the bill now goes to Gov. Terry McAuliffe to be signed into law. The legislation allows Sunday hunting on private land during designated hunting seasons by hunters who have the written permission of landowners.

Why are states involved with this in the first place?

-Georgia lawmakers are discussing a change in airport regulations.  Concealed carry license holders would receive a warning and be asked to leave the secure area of the airport if they approach airport security screening with an undeclared firearm in their luggage.  One out of a million passengers at Atlanta’s Hartsfield airport forgets they have a firearm with them.  Airport security officials have arrested both politicians and clergy members who were then charged with a misdemeanor.  Former speaker of the State House, Terry Coleman, was arrested last year when security screeners found a pistol in his briefcase.  The bill probably won’t pass.. without your help.

You and I know where our guns are.  What about every round and shell casing?  How about an empty magazine you left in your briefcase if you carry at work?

-Also in Georgia a House bill which would expand the places where licensed individuals can carry a gun.  House Bill 875 passed after an emotional debate.  The vote was 119 to 56. The bill now goes to the Georgia Senate.  The bill applies to people over 21 years of age with a Georgia weapons license.  They would be allowed to carry in churches and bars that are not posted.  They could also carry in airports up to the security checkpoint and some public buildings with no security checkpoint. College campuses are not  included, but a weapons license holder caught with a gun on campus would only be subject to up to a $100 fine with no jail time. The bill also allows public school system to train and arm any staff members who volunteers. It also prohibits compiling and releasing a list of weapons license holders as some other states have done.

I wish I lived in Georgia so I could call my state senator.

-Florida respects gun owners.  That doesn’t stop south Florida cities from asking the state to define requirements for backyard gun ranges.  State law says you can fire from your backyard so long as the activity is not negligent or reckless.  There are no limits specifying distance from a property line, distance from a school or hours of operation.

-Since the Newtown tragedy, 7 states allow teachers to arm themselves and more are considering it this year.  Buckeye Firearms says that armed school staff are making a significant difference in keeping our schools safe. Buckeye Firearms spent $140,000 in the past year on training 150 teachers and other school officials, putting each of them through a 3 day training course.   According to Jim Irvine, President of Buckeye Firearms over 20 schools in the state currently have armed staff.  Great job Ohio and Buckeye Firearms!

Can other states learn from them before the next school tragedy?

-California is a strange state.  Eight Los Angeles police officers will not be disciplined after they fired 103 rounds at two unarmed women who were delivering newspapers from their car.  One of the officers thought the sound of the papers hitting the driveway was a gunshot, and then the other officers joined in the assault.  The unarmed mother and daughter received 4.2 million dollars from the Los Angeles taxpayers.  That is about 41 thousand dollars per shot.

Rob- Yep, there are laws for LA cops and there are separate laws for you and me.

Rob- In Texas it looks like Democrats are breaking the law in an attempt to turn the state blue. According to Breitbart when the Democrats sign up a new voter they keep that voters information, including telephone number and then make sure that on election day that that person gets out to vote. That in and of itself doesn’t sound too bad right? Except that that is against Texas election laws.

Paul -Two Minnesota police organizations have sued the National Football League, claiming that a policy prohibiting guns in football stadiums violates a state law by infringing on the right of off-duty police to carry weapons.  Since last September, NFL policy prohibits firearms in any league facilities, including team offices and practice facilities as well as stadiums. The only exceptions are for law enforcement officers that are specifically assigned to work at NFL games.  The lawsuit by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association and Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis claims the NFL policy puts members of the public at an unnecessary risk by prohibiting licensed, off-duty police officers from carrying their weapons inside stadiums and parking lots.

Can you think of the last time an off duty police officer started a gunfights at an NFL game?

Rob: Gun Quotes
When liberty is taken away by force, it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default, it can never be recovered. — DOROTHY THOMPSON

Paul: Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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Joe Chetwood, the gun doctor.
Do indirect piston systems help reliability? Only if the gun is unreliable in the first place. A well designed/manufactured firearm doesn’t need it. Some do.
Can you have too much rifling twist in your rifle barrel? Yes. There is an optimum twist rate for each bullet weight.
Can I use button mounts for a sling on a synthetic stock Ruger 10-22. Yes, but it might take some work.
V3 H&K ?? Can I swap out the trigger? There are liability issues. The H&K and FN don’t lend themselves to reliable trigger jobs. Some triggers are afterthoughts.
I’m getting some slop in my RIA 1911 rail to frame fit. Custom guns are tight. Tight guns won’t run in a dirty environment. Don’t worry until you notice a decrease in accuracy.
Can I retrofit a shorter trigger? Yes, you can find a trigger assembly with a shorter shoe.
Torus- PT92AF One out of 20 shots won’t cycle. This could be from low power ammo, a tight fit, try hotter ammo. Have a gunsmith put in a lighter main spring.
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More Joe Chetwood, the gun doctor
Mosin-Nagant has trouble extracting a fired round. Look at the chamber. Surface roughness can cause the case to bind. Clean really well with a chamber brush before you try to polish the chamber. You could have lacquer buildup from lacquer painted steel case ammo. See a gunsmith if cleaning doesn’t solve the problem.

I took my Beretta 75 to the range. A friend said the front sight was filed down. Can the front sight be replaced?  No. You’d need a new barrel. This is a smaller pistol that Beretta has not made in years.

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Segment 4 DGUs

DGU A Detroit family was robbed only two weeks ago.  Someone tried again this week, but this time it was caught on video and the Detroit mom was ready with her rifle.  She was home with her two small children when three teenagers kicked in her door Monday night.  She grabbed her firearm and told them to leave because she had a gun.  They said, “no you don’t” and she proved them wrong.  The three ran away after she fired, and one of the intruders dropped his pistol in the snow.  He picked up his pistol and tried to enter the house a second time.  The homeowner fired again and this time the thief stayed away.  All three teenagers were apprehended by police.

The reports indicate she missed twice.  I think she needs some practice because the criminals didn’t get the message the first time.

DGU A Bell County, Texas man faced a pair of burglars early Monday.  22 year old Elijah Wong was awakened by family members at about 2 AM.  They told him that someone was trying to break into their home. The power was cut off as Wong walked to the kitchen.  Someone kicked in the back door and Wong fired twice at the man.  Wong then scared off a second man who was trying to break in through the front door.  Law enforcement found a man in the front yard who had been shot in the arm, and also detained his accomplice.

COP DGU- Well this was a Valentine’s day dinner they won’t forget.  An intoxicated patron at the Aroyo Cafe in Stockton California drew a handgun and threatened to kill everyone.  The restaurant emptied as hundreds of customers flooded out the doors, except for off duty police officer Joe Silva.  Silva is the public affairs officer for the Stockton PD, but this time he was making news rather than sharing it with reporters.  Silva drew his own firearm and arrested the man.. potentially saving dozens of lives.

The patrons at the restaurant were probably disarmed by county law.  Stockton is in San Joaquin County, and is May Issue rather than a Shall issue County.  Thank god for a good man with a gun.

DGU- This is sad news from Florida. A west Palm Beach man came home from lunch and found a young man going through his gun collection.  The juvenile was placing several of the firearms on a blanket to take them from the home.  The juvenile pointed one of the guns at the homeowner who then fought with the juvenile.  The homeowner shot the juvenile several times.  The juvenile was taken to the hospital where he later died.  The young man was on probation at the time of this robbery.

DGU- According to the Pasco County, Florida Sheriff’s Office, a chiropractor acted in a self-defense when he shot a man who came into his office Monday morning.  Jaime Velez brought a gun to the doctor’s office  before a dispute started.  Velez was shot several times by the doctor and the Sheriff’s office considers it self-defense.  Velez is listed in critical but stable condition.

DGU- Earlier this month, an Ossipee, New Hampshire homeowner faced a pair of robbers.  Armed with a knife, James Brooks entered a home and demanded money from the homeowner.  The homeowner grabbed a gun and fired at Brooks and his accomplice.  Brooks was arrested this week after police received tips about his location.  Ossipee police said they have a long history with Brooks, who has faced previous charges in connection with drugs and violent acts.  This time Brooks was charged with burglary, armed robbery, trespass, threatening and reckless driving. He is being held without bail.

A small-caliber pistol in a pocket holster is better than a full-caliber gun in the nightstand.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Listener e-mail discussion
Greg from Bremmerton wrote in and shared this article: http://www.examiner.com/article/new-playbook-same-goal-masking-gun-control  The gist of the article seems to be that a super PAC is getting together and making a huge push for anti-gun candidates this fall in Washington state. They produced a 90 minute webinar a few days ago on how to push their anti-gun adgenda. Oh yeah, and this should surprise on one, the group is from Washington… Not Washington the state, Washington DC.

Also Greg sent in a DGU story:  Story 1:POULSBO — A man was shot during an argument early Sunday at a Poulsbo, Washington home.  At 3:33AM a.m., Kitsap County Sheriff’s Office patrol deputies and detectives, and a Poulsbo Fire Department medic unit were sent to a home in the 23800 block and found several people there.

A woman had allegedly been sexually assaulted by a man she knew and was taken to Harrison Medical Center in Bremerton by a private party to be examined. In the meantime, the suspect was reportedly shot by another man during an argument about the alleged sexual assault, according to the Sheriff’s Office.

The aid unit took him to Harrison where his injuries aren’t considered life-threatening. The 32-year-old man was charged with third-degree rape yesterday.

Later, A man who was shot early Sunday during a birthday party at a Moorgate Place home was booked into jail Monday on suspicion of second-degree rape.  After the homeowner’s live-in fiancée took the alleged rape victim, a 44-year-old woman, to Harrison Medical Center in Bremerton to be examined, an argument broke out at the home at about 3:30 a.m.

The homeowner, who was much smaller than the rape suspect, felt threatened and shot him with a handgun, which another guest had brought, unloaded and stashed in a safe place, according to Kitsap County sheriff’s spokesman Scott Wilson. The homeowner knew where the gun was and retrieved it when he felt threatened.

Deputies questioned and released the shooter at the home, determining the shooting was justified. The final determination will be up to the county prosecutor. The alleged rapist, a 32-year-old Bremerton man, was taken to Harrison in Bremerton. He’s now in Kitsap County Jail with bail of $100,000.

This story was edited to correct the age of the alleged victim.

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Outro and disclaimer

Joe Chetwood and a closer look at the SAFE act

Joe Chetwood of Crusader Weaponry is interviewed and Raquel’s on target looks at the New York Safe act. Paul goes on a bit of a rant about the recent bombing in Boston.

Video mentioned in Paul’s rant:

 

Episode 75 – Joe Chetwood and Mark Vanderberg

 

Joe Chetwood of Crusader Weaponry and Mark Vanderberg are guests. Brian and Paul talk with Joe Chetwood of Crusader Weaponry about Slipstream weapons lubricant, AR15s, AR10s, an AR lower that is being given away by GRRN, and free training for teachers and school administrators.

Toby and Paul talk with Mark Vanderberg, Executive Producer of the Gun Rights Radio Network about the Connecticut shooting and the NRA’s response, about gun rights activism, the coming GRRN Mag40 and AR lower giveaway, and a little talk about booze.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Jon Hodoway episode mentioned in the show here