Episode 315 – Grant Cunningham and Alex Kincaid

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“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”
Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast presented by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded live on Sunday, March first, 2015, I’m Paul Lathrop
John: I’m John Richardson and on tonights show we will talk with Grant Cunningham about SHOT Show and wheel guns..
Rob: I’m Rob Morse, and we’ll also talk with Alex Kincaid about gun rights and the Idaho legislature.
Gary D: I’m Gary Daugherty and we have not one but two DGUs from Albuquerque.
Paul: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul:  Episode 315 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
Show intro music.

Seg 1- Personal news from each participant

We need to start off by welcoming a new person to the team! Charlie Foxtrot (you have heard him as a guest here before) came aboard and is helping us with research and writing up show notes.  You may at some point in the future hear him on the air from time to time, but he is going to be more concerned with getting our facts straight and making certain that we are set to go on Sunday when we hit the air.

Paul – Got home a little bit early on Saturday. I was expecting to get home sometime Saturday afternoon and actually got home about 10 am. I had an interesting friday. I had another truck take off my driver side mirror and had to limp home without being able to see what was going on out the drivers side of my truck behind my window. While parked Friday evening waiting for dispatch to find a way for me to get home I got a call that one of my boss’s other trucks was broke down about 30 miles south of me and could I please drop the trailer that I was pulling in a secure yard (it’s NOT easy to back without a driver’s side mirror) and then bobtail over and pick up the other driver and drive 200 miles back home. Left about 3:45 am and got it all done, but without any fun at all.  BTW the guy that I gave a ride back to the shop spent 3 ½ hours in the truck talking CONSTANTLY. He had been driving for 2 years and knew WAY more than my 13 years according to him.)

-Rob helped mentor a group of doctors and nurses.  Keep them safe.  Keep them interested, and let the silly things slide.  I got him past the tea cup grip.

John – I went to a gun show in Winston-Salem yesterday. Saw a lot of green-tip 5.56 ammo for sale at inflated prices. The other thing I noticed about this gun show was that the show goers were more diverse than at home in Asheville. I saw quite a number of African-Americans as well as some Asians. I take this as a good sign for the gun culture. As for me, I came home with a cap and a bunch of AR stripper clips.

(Weekend shows only) I am going to insert a live promo about upcoming training classes in Sioux Falls here.


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Seg 2- News

NRA’s Wayne LaPierre Speaks Up for Gun Rights at CPAC
The National Rifle Association’s CEO and Executive Vice President, Wayne LaPierre spoke before the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this Friday.  In a rousing, well received speech,  LaPierre called the NRA “freedom’s safest place”, saying that the right to keep and bear arms and rights in general are all linked.

In the Breitbart report, LaPierre was also quick to call out “the liars” in media, who shy away from reporting the truth about guns in America.  Pronouncing anti-gun laws “a waste of time” and “nanny state social schemes,” LaPierre asserted that existing gun laws that protect the citizenry from criminals are not enforced. “Face the truth: individuals are in charge of our own security,” he insisted. Politicians can’t and won’t protect you; only “the ironclad safeguard of the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms can protect you.”

“Guns empower women,” LaPierre continued, pointing to the NRA’s Refuse to Be a Victim program, which teaches women how to protect themselves, with and without a firearm. “You don’t empower women leaving them defenseless, and you don’t strengthen a nation by taking its weapons,” he said.

LaPierre  concluded by calling for Congress to “pass right-to-carry reciprocity, and pass it today,” which received approval from the CPAC audience.


Opposition to Obama Bullet Ban Developing Quickly
The Washington Examiner reports that the Obama administration’s attempt to ban a very common type of ammunition is rapidly garnering opposition. As of Friday, 172 Representatives (40%!) have already signed the letter questioning the logic and underlying reasons for the sudden revisions of the BATFE regulations. A similar effort is building within the Senate.

Legislative leaders are concerned that this is the administration’s backdoor attack on the popular AR-15 though a ban of the popular SS109/ M855 62gn 5.56 ammunition. The M855 has been in civilian hands for almost 40 years. It is a popular low cost plinking and target shooting round, with literally hundreds of millions bought for the Nation’s 9-10 million AR-15s. The proposed regulation change is a perversion of the letter and intent of the nation’s laws and a further extension of Obama’s “Pen and Phone” executive order negation of the Constitution..

It is imperative to stop this Obama adventure – Now! It will only get worse in the remaining  22 months of this rogue presidency. Comment on the BATFE proposed regulations. Call and write your legislatures. And put a little cash in the hands of the NRA, SAF, and other worthy gun-rights organizations; they’re doing absolutely critical work in defense of your rights!.




John – comment – I wrote my representative urging him to sign the letter. As Patrick McHenry is the Chief Dep. Majority Whip, his signature might carry some weight. I would urge everyone to push their own representative to sign on to the letter.

John – Here is another good site to use to send a message. It gives you a choice of letters and will send a fax to both ATF and Congress.

-Judge Orders Harrisburg, PA to Stop Enforcing Three Gun Ordinances
A judge ruled that three Harrisburg Pennsylvania gun control ordinances were unconstitutional under state preemption law. Harrisburg had sought to prohibit gun possession in parks, during a state of emergency, or by minors. The judge ruled that city ordinances were stricter than Pennsylvanian law. The ruling is a positive step in the fight to eliminate illegal municipal firearms ordinances.

The judge’s rulings weren’t all good news for gun owners.  Two ordinances were left standing.  They restricted the discharge of firearms in city limits, and required prompt reporting of lost or stolen guns.

The Creepy Ballerina Must Continue to Dance

Despite an Obama visit and a campaign war chest more than 4 times that of all of his challengers, mayor Rahm (Dead Fish) Emanuel failed to poll a majority in the election and will face a runoff. The two-term Chicago mayor, Progressive strategist, political brawler, and virulent anti-gunner, will contest with leading challenger Jesus (Hay-zus) Garcia.

Chicago voters, at least the ones that are alive, are questioning Rahm’s performance as the mayor of the Nation’s third largest city. There is growing discontent in Chicagoland’s ‘hoods over his elitist administration, faltering economics, demographic shifts, failing schools and the increasing levels of violence within the city.

Rahm, who did not have a run-off in his first reelection, is said to be disappointed, angry and frustrated with having to devote energy and time to the additional campaign. Commentators are highlighting the dangers of a unified anti-Rahm effort backing Garcia. However, the few conservatives left in Chicago should not rejoice, as Garcia is described as being far to the left of Emanuel.




(mentioned Wednesday) Emily Gets Her Gun — Permit
Fox News TV reporter, best selling author, 2nd Amendment advocate, and cutest thing under 5 feet; Emily Miller has received preliminary approval for her Washington, DC Concealed Carry Permit. She still must complete an 18 hour course with a certified instructor before carrying within the Nation’s Capitol.

(Is the following new?)

Ms. Miller is the 15th person to be granted a CCW license out of 76 applicants. Thirty-six have already been denied or have withdrawn their applications. That means to-date, a disgraceful 70 percent of applicants have been prevented from receiving their CCW permits and been denied their 2nd Amendment Rights. Emily’s national visibility as a reporter most certainly influenced the highly politicized DC process. Miller originally applied for the CCW permit because of several credible death threats and was undoubtedly deserving of the permit. However, it’s likely that the rest of the applicants were also worthy. But, that’s life in the Capitol, one of America’s most dangerous cities.




Blame the victim in DC

-Owning a gun in DC is not like owning a gun in Frisco, Texas or Gilbert, Arizona.. two of the safest cities in America.  No.. we’re talking about about the district of columbia, a city that ranks with Baltimore and Detroit for violent crime.  We are two months into 2015, and already there have been 13 homicides and 23 instances of sexual abuse reported in DC.   There were 6 instances of sexual abuse and 9 armed robberies with a gun reported this week alone.  Assaults with a gun have increased by 31% compared to this time last year.  In total, there were 378 crimes reported this week including 61 violent crimes.

The police chief says that firearms in the hands of honest citizens are the problem.  She is wrong.  She has a bigoted prejudice against the right of self-defense.  An armed citizen is the solution.  You are hundreds of times more likely to be a victim of violent crime in DC than to be victimized by a concealed carry holder.

Handguns Should be Legalised and Licensed According to a UK Leader
From across the pond, courtesy of The Telegraph, comes an example of the worldwide desire for individual freedom.

In a major speech, Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party, stated that the United Kingdom’s 1997 ban on handguns was a kneejerk reaction and should be lifted. UK citizens had lost their rights in the wake of the previous year’s Dunblane school shooting.

Mr Farage described the ban on guns as ludicrous. He said that it was UKIP policy to create a proper handgun licensing policy allowing people who kept handguns responsibility locked up and were willing to get an official licence to be allowed them. Experts said his comments were “stupid” and would only encouraged an American-style idea that you and your home are only safe if you are armed. Well…. yeah.


-NRA past president Marion Hammer wrote a rebuttal to a local editorial.  The Florida Sun-Sentinel criticized concealed carry on campus.  Hammer said the only thing to fear was the parade of college and university professors attempting to lobby the legislative committee without facts, without reason and without decorum. Quoting Hammer, “For a college professor to stand in the back of the room and scream at the committee chairman was not only inappropriate behavior; it was a chilling realization that those who refuse to engage in civil discourse are teaching impressionable students.”

Criticizing the committee Chairman Greg Evers for showing a map detailing the dozens of registered sex offenders who live in close proximity to the Florida State University campus shows yet another denial of reality. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement supplies those facts to help students and parents be aware of the dangers around campuses.

So-called “unified opposition from state universities” doesn’t make their position right, it merely reveals their willingness to march in collective unison, even when they’re denying reality.


Gun Quotes

Hang on everybody, we’ll be back with our defensive gun use segment.

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Segment 3 Interviews

-Grant (Kombucha Kid) Cunningham


Alex Kincaid of Alex Kincaid law.  Alex was a prosecutor.  She is a shooter.  She advises companies in the firearms industry.. and she has her own podcast.  Welcome Alex.

You live in Idaho.

Idaho has a reputation as being both conservative and pro gun.  The way I read it, the Idaho legislature has some unfair firearms rules.  Can’t the state legislators carry simply because they are office holders?

Do they have to go through all the background checks and take training classes like a citizen would if a citizen wanted to carry in the Capital chambers?

It sounds like the Idaho legislature granted themselves “constitutional carry”.  They can carry in prohibited places without having to get a concealed carry permit while they denied that right to Idaho citizens.

I heard the department of commerce representative from Idaho talk at SHOT show and tell everyone they are gun friendly.  Hmm.

Alex, who are your usual customers?

Tell our listeners where they can follow you.





Segment 4 DGUs

This week has seen a spate of home invasions.

Albuquerque, New Mexico Homeowner Shoots Knife Wielding Invader

In a quiet Southwest neighborhood, a homeowner was forced to defend his life Thursday morning. Awakened by a noise, the resident investigated, and was confronted in the kitchen by the knife-wielding intruder. The invader advanced, telling the homeowner that he was going to kill him. The owner shot, and the 28 year old criminal, with a history of breaking and entering, died at the hospital. Detectives found the back door had been forced open.

Police do not expect that charges will be filed against the homeowner.




Also in Albuquerque, a retired Marine was the victim of a home invasion, gunshot, and vehicle theft. The unarmed Marine was unable to resist the 5-5 intruder who shot him in the leg and caused him to beg for his life.

The criminal escaped in the Marine’s truck. He is also suspected in another area home invasion where a woman was tied-up. The criminal remains at large.

71 Year Old Ohioan Defends Himself Against  a Break-in

A 71 year old retiree, known as a quiet, laid-back, nice guy, found himself in a fight for his life this afternoon after a man less than half his age kicked down his front door.

Fortunately, the homeowner was armed.  The resident called 911 and reported, “Some guy broke into my house, and I shot him.”  Police found the assailant’s remains on the home’s porch. The intruder was a drug addicted felon who had recently been released from prison after being convicted of burglary.  Despite the preponderance of evidence, Police say this case will be reviewed by the Grand Jury.



Updated with the capture of the accomplice.  

A North Carolina Home Invasion Leaves One Dead and One in Jail

Two men kicked in the door of a Catawba County, North Carolina home: one is dead – we can now report the other is in jail.

 Late Monday night, a homeowner was awakened by a noise from the basement. He called 911 and then fortunately grabbed a shotgun. Fortunately, as he had to use the long gun in defense of his life when an intruder came toward him. The violent criminal was shot once in the chest and his accomplice ran off. The wounded robber, a felon on parole, died on the way to the hospital. His compatriot sped off and was later arrested at his home Thursday morning.

The father of the homeowner said his son had no choice. He related that his son was “tore up” by the incident. The Sheriff of Catawba County was supportive, saying that “You do have a right to protect your property when somebody breaks in the house on you. You don’t know if these people are coming in to steal your property or coming in to do harm to you and your family.” The homeowner is not expected to face charges. The accomplice will likely be charged with murder.



Suspected burglar killed by homeowner in North Lauderdale, FL

A burglary suspect was shot and killed by a homeowner saying he was seeking to protect his family. The North Lauderdale man encountered a burglar in his backyard early Friday morning. The criminal was allegedly attempting to break into the owner’s home where his wife, her son, and granddaughter lived. The occupants of the home were unhurt

According to police, the suspect allegedly broke into the fenced-in backyard, burglarized a shed, and then attempted to break into the home. Awakened by the noise, the homeowner armed himself and went to the backyard to investigate. He found the burglar and fired, wounding him. The burglar later died at the hospital.

In a late development, the police investigation has been reopened, and the homeowner and the son re-questioned. At this time, the status of the investigation is not known.



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Segment 5 Show close

Listener e-mail discussion

Ken in Arizona emailed this one in:

With Star Trek in our thoughts this week, this quote is from Captain Picard (TNG: The Schizoid Man):
“No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another.”
I will add, especially when those rights are enumerated in our Constitution.
Phoenix, AZ

Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

I have an article on concealed carry on campus. A gun free campus disarms the delivery driver as effectively as the drunk freshman.  The post is up at ammoland and my blog.

John do you want to mention anything off of your blog you would like to talk about?

I did a quick post on Friday about the hypocrisy of the head Demanding Mommy Shannon Watts. She is on a campaign against campus carry. Thanks to what her kids share on social media, I found that Mrs. Watts older daughter attends a university that has allowed concealed carry for a number of years without problems. I won’t give her daughter’s name or school as I don’t believe the sins of the parents should be visited upon the children. That said, Shannon Watts is the consummate hypocrite.

Paul – Before we go I want to talk about Net Neutrality.  I have a couple of points to bring up. #1, I have a challenge for our listeners. Besides actual defense of our borders (and even that in the last 20 years can be questioned) Name 1 thing that the federal government has become involved in that it hasn’t totally screwed up. And B I will fight tooth and nail should it ever come to the point where they want to regulate the internet so much that they demand “equal time” to bloggers and podcasters. Think that that’s never going to happen? Think of this. Compared to 20 years ago how much information do you get from blogs and podcasts vs “mainstream” media. (newspapers, television, and radio either through the regular channels or the online version.)

We here in the “new media” are becoming extremely influential. Perhaps not the Polite Society Podcast (yet) but all of us as a whole.

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  I’d like to thank (Guests) for joining us today.  co-hosts, will you be with us next time?  I’m looking forward to it.  Until the next time…

Rob: stay safe,

Gary: be aware,

John: and we’ll see you down the road.

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