“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”
Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast presented by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded live on Sunday, November 30th, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rob: I’m Rob Morse. On tonights show we interviewed Derrick of Prepper Press.
Susan: I’m Susan Lathrop, and boy did you listeners buy a lot of guns on black Friday! So climb aboard.
Rob: strap in.
Paul : and hang on! Episode 289 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1- Personal news from each participant
Welcome back to the polite society podcast presented by the Firearms Policy Coalition. This is our personal news segment.
Rob- Shot the Mosin-Nagant and and finally sighted it in. I must have gotten lucky, because it shot 2 minute of angle. I don’t know that I could do that again, but I’ll let you know next time I do. The limb-saver butt cuff makes this rifle a pussycat. Since I shot the MN, I got to take the rifle apart and clean it, and clean it again. Imported military surplus ammunition is really dirty. I dry practiced. I stopped by a local gun store. They had a good crowd the day after Thanksgiving. The cable TV debate I was on started to run on One America News Network.
Seg 2- News
Welcome back to the polite society podcast presented by the Firearms Policy Coalition. This is our news segment.
1-Did you go to a gun store the day after Thanksgiving? A lot of people did, and did they every buy some guns. The national instant background check system processed three requests a second or about one hundred forty five thousand requests on Friday. About 3000 NICS requests will require additional background searches, mostly because of incomplete court records. The FBI will process 2 million NICS inquiries this year. The flood of sales on Friday was three times the average number.
2-A few weeks ago, a gunman opened fire on unarmed students and staff. The assault took place just outside the library of the University of Florida, Tallahassee. University Security has staff on scene who checks book bags and backpacks as students enter the library. There is virtually no security on campus outside the library perimeter. Nathan Scott was shot during the gunman’s attack. He is a staff member of the University Library. He is also a concealed carry holder and a member of Students for Concealed Carry. Scott was disarmed by University regulations which prohibit carry on campus. An army veteran studying at the library was also disarmed by University regulations. A law to allow concealed carry on Florida campuses was vigorously fought by then Florida republican state senator, and now FSU President, John Thrasher. President Thrasher’s anti-rights vote has now left one student paralyzed and two others wounded.
After this shooting, anti-rights activist will demand more honest civilians be disarmed. The attacker was a former New Mexico prosecutor who recently lost his job. What law would stop him from receiving a firearm?
According to a study by the Crime Prevention Research Center, there have been no reported problems with permit holders in the nine states that mandate colleges allow permitted concealed handguns on campuses.
3-I’m sure you heard that the Grand Jury in Ferguson, Missouri no-billed officer Darren Wilson. You might have heard that two New York Times reporters published officer Wilson’s address. I bet you didn’t hear that address and phone numbers of the two reporters were then made public on Facebook. Now Chicago based New York Times reporter Julie Bosman is calling the Chicago police at the 20th District Station every few minutes. She complained about people harassing and threatening her. It seems she keeps getting fast food delivered to her address.. food that she didn’t order. She is also getting hate calls and hate mail. I suspect she is receiving exactly the same treatment she expected Officer Wilson and his family to receive. Anyone wonder why she is calling those “mean racists” men who wear blue uniforms and carry guns?
Thank you, officers, for your service on Thanksgiving, and for putting up with idiots like reporter Julie Bosman year ‘round.
4-Maybe the New York Times Reporter should get a gun.. after she waits a month for the required Illinois Firearms Owners Identification Card and then waits the required period after she buys a gun. She could go to a local gun store and buy a gun, except there aren’t an local gun stores in Chicago. She could learn to shoot at the local range.. except the Chicago city council has outlawed gun ranges in and near Chicago. Getting a gun is a good idea because saying that the chicago police will protect you isn’t very realistic. The Chicago Police are able to identify the criminal in only a quarter of their murder cases, and a smaller fraction of the 2000 shootings in Chicago each year. The Chicago Police have pulled staff from high crime areas so they can protect the well-to-do neighborhoods.
5-This story was sent in by listener Scott from Texas. One gas station in Ferguson, Missouri was brightly lit all night while other stores were closed, dark and boarded up. The open store also had armed guards. Unpaid armed guards. They were armed black men who volunteered without being asked. Many, but not all of them, are former employees of the gas station owner. The gas station owner is white.
At first there were some issues with the national guard, but those problems were ironed out once the national guard learned who belonged and who didn’t. The volunteer security team open carried slung ARs and some holstered handguns.
Doug Merello owns the gas station. He said his store would have been burned to the ground many times over if it weren’t for the armed volunteers. Merello’s father bought the station back in 1984.
One of the volunteer guards said, “He’s a nice dude, he’s helped us a lot.” This black volunteer lived a short distance away from the store for most of his life. Together the volunteers chased away several groups of teenagers. They’ve had to display their weapons and threaten the thugs who tried to rob the gas station. That is the news about responsible gun owners you won’t see on CNN, but now YOU know.
Welcome back to the polite society podcast presented by the Firearms Policy Coalition. This is our second news segment. Susan, what is our next story?
6-It is called regression analysis. This is a type of statistical analysis that tries to determine cause and correlation from social science data. Academic studies using regression analysis are where we hear academics argue if guns cause crime or if guns prevent crime. Doctor John Lott knows the data and how statistics can be misused. Doctor Lott recently published a rebuttal to an article in the Washington Post. Lott explains that the data can be confusing when a long term trend of crime reduction takes place along with changes in state concealed carry law. It isn’t a matter of black and white, but measuring the changing shades of gray. Lott points out that states who were the first to adopt concealed carry laws had lower fees and far fewer restrictions than the states who adopted concealed carry later on. The early states had many more concealed carry holders precisely because they imposed fewer restrictions. Those states who were the first to adopt concealed carry also had the largest drop in crime. Smaller reductions for the more restrictive states is exactly what the “More Guns, Less Crime” hypothesis would predict.
Two-thirds of peer-reviewed research by economists and criminologists finds that right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime.
Comment- Anti-rights bigots make up statistics. Will stupid Americans believe them?
7-A federal judge ordered Wal-Mart Stores to let shareholders vote on a proposal to force tighter oversight of its sale of high-capacity guns and other potentially offensive products.
A U.S. District Judge in Wilmington, Delaware said Walmart wrongly excluded such a proposal from Trinity Church, a historic Wall Street church, from its annual meeting.
The proposal ignores the 42 thousand accidental traffic deaths each year. Does Walmart ban cars and eliminate its parkinglots?
The proposal ignores the 39 thousand accidental poisonings. Children taste the kitchen chemicals and teenagers try grandma’s medicines. Still, Walmarts have pharmacies and sell kitchen cleaners.
The proposal ignores the 25 thousand falls that kill us each year. Walmart even promotes these deaths by selling some high-heel shoes.
The proposal ignores the 2500 deaths from fire and smoke inhalation. Walmart doesn’t offer free batteries and smoke detectors. Instead they sell charcoal lighter fluid and cigarette lighters.
Instead the proposal focused on the 6 to 7 hundred accidental deaths from firearms. The rate of firearms accidents is at a record low even when we use an expansive definition of accidental death.
That is too many, so be safe out there. Take a course and practice what you were shown. And you’re right, some judges do crazy things with the law.
8-You may remember the Muslim who murdered a soldier standing honor guard at the Canadian war memorial, and who then attacked Parliament. The murderer was shot by the Sargeant at Arms who used to serve in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. During that attack, most of the guards at Parliament were not armed. Now they will be. So will the guards at the House of Commons. The two security forces will merge and are being retrained now to provide armed security. A spokeswoman said she could not comment on the number of guards protecting Parliament at any one time.
9-Elections have consequences, and so do votes. Magpul Industries announced it has opened its new facilities in Texas and Wyoming as it winds down operations in Colorado. The Wyoming facility will also expand early next year. Magpul plans to retain a small office in Colorado as they continue to help relocate their existing Colorado staff, and to provide regional sales support. Magpul officials said that they will continue to support gun rights in Colorado even after moving their headquarters and production facilities out of state.
Magpul was the largest firearms company to announce it would leave Colorado after Democrat Governor John Hickenlooper signed three gun control bills in March of last year. The company ran its manufacturing and corporate operations from facilities in Erie, Colorado. Company CEO Richard Fitzpatrick said Texas and Wyoming were selected based on factors that included support for individual liberties and personal responsibility. The company is known for its polymer firearms accessories. Colorado lost the direct and support jobs from Magpul that totaled over 85 million dollars a year.
10-Speaking of bad laws and their consequences.. Washington State passed initiative 594 by 10 percent. Few voters read it. The law requires a firearms transfer for any use of quote “ a device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.” Close quote. Those words were written in black and white, but will Home Depot, Walmart, Cabela’s, West Marine and countless other sporting goods and hardware stores, as well as construction companies in Washington comply with the new law?
Walmart and West Marine sell flare guns used for signaling. These flares are required safety equipment on boats. Now, each sale needs an authorized firearms transfer with the FFL taking possession of the item during the transfer. Only the official owner is allowed to handle the distress flare.
Home Depot, Lowe’s and other hardware stores sell and rent nail guns. These construction tools use a small propellant charge to drive specially hardened nails into concrete or steel foundations. Now, each rental and each return of the tool requires a firearms transfer. It is a state misdemeanor if a second worker touches or transports the tool on the job site.
The Washington DOT loans out an artillery gun with a road crew for avalanche control in the mountains.. or at least they used to. Now each operator is required to complete a firearms transfer each time the equipment moves from one crew to the next.
I-594 did not use the standard federal definition of a firearm. The way 594 is written, it isn’t clear to firearms owners if the gun’s receiver is the restricted item or if the cartridge case is the restricted item.
Gun owners have planned mass demonstrations and civil disobedience of 594. Washington law enforcement officers have little interest seeking prosecutions under 594. Washington initiative 594 will face a court challenge. Some judge will determine if the poorly written initiative will be invalidated. The question remains if an abusive law enforcement officer or prosecutor will selectively apply the law.
“President Obama has nominated U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch to be the country’s next attorney general. Lynch is a curious choice, as she has no previous experience in running guns to Mexico.” That quote is from comedian Jodi Miller.
Hang on everybody, we’ll be back after this.
Segment 3 Interviews
Interview with Derrick of Prepper Press
Segment 4 DGUs
1-A man broke into an Edmonds Washington house in the middle of the night. The female homeowner woke up at 3 a.m as the intruder pounded on her front door. She called 911 and grabbed her gun. She thought she knew the intruder and opened the door. When it wasn’t someone the homeowner recognized, she tried to push the intruder back outside. That didn’t work. The homeowner shot the intruder when he continued to force his way into her home. Police officers arrived moments later to find the wounded intruder on the front lawn. He was taken into custody and driven to Harborview Medical Center where he is being treated for the gunshot wound. The woman’s husband and their 14-, 10- and 5-year-old children were inside the home, as well as a friend of the 14-year-old. No one else was hurt.
The intruder’s friends say he’d been out drinking and was looking for friends who used to live in the house some time ago.
2-18 year old Adric White was convicted of armed robbery and facing five more counts. He was out on bail awaiting sentencing when he tried to rob a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Alabama. The teenager entered the store, drew his gun and waved his gun in the faces of store employees and customers while he demanded cash. A good Samaritan with a legal concealed carry permit noticed the masked gunman lead one of the employees to the front of the store where the robber had a gun to the store clerks head while the clerk was down on his knees. The good Samaritan sized up the situation and told White to drop his gun. Instead, the armed robber turned toward him. The good Samaritan shot White five times. White survived.
White’s sister said quote “If [the customer’s] life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him (then) what gives him the right to think that it’s okay to just shoot someone?” Another relative said quote “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.” close quote.
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Segment 5 Show close
Listener e-mail discussion
We talked about Facebook blocking any company that links to a site with any firearms sales. Listener Scott from Texas showed us the website “gunchannels.com”. They describe themselves as a site for Firearms Enthusiasts, Shooters of all sorts, Shooting Sports Competitors, Hunters, Collectors, Manufacturers, Gun Shops and others involved in the firearms community. There are no ads, no banners, no user tracking, and the don’t sell your click data to anyone. It costs $1 per month.
Thank you, Scott. I’d like to hear from our listeners who’ve used that site.
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Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?
Rob- I debated a lawyer from the San Francisco based Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. That was on the Tomi Lahren show which airs on the One America News Network. I don’t know if they will post the full debate on the web, but I have a partial video of the debate on my blog page and on Youtube. If you like the video, then you might want to let Tomi know about other gun-rights topics for her to cover.
Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. I’d like to thank Derrick of Prepper Press for joining us today. Rob, will you be with us next week? I’m looking forward to it. Until the next time…
Rob: stay safe,
Susan: be aware,
Paul: and we’ll see you down the road.
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