Episode 234 – Jeff Hulsey

Intro- “An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Saturday, May 3rd, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop.
John: I’m John Richardson, and tonight we will talk with Jeff Hulsey. Jeff is the retired gunsmith that we wrote about on our website a little more than a week ago.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we have our regular news segment and stories of defensive gun use.
Paul: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 234 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1
Personal news from each participant
Rob- Took some friends through dry practice and room clearing. Yes, we taught slicing the pie and the fatal funnel of doorways. After that exercise with finger guns, they understood why you call the cops to investigate a bump in the night.. and why the police send in dogs. Shot a steel match this morning. Traded guns with a friend who was having problems hitting the target. I’m sad to say the problem wasn’t the gun.

Seg 2- News
John – Mark Glaze, executive director of Everytown for Gun Safety, announced he plans to resign in June to do “other things”. Glaze had previously been the director of Mayor Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns since 2011. He helped to orchestrate the merger of MAIG with Moms Demand late last year. Glaze said it was time for him to hand the fight off to someone else.

While there is no word on a successor, speculation centers around John Feinblatt who previously was the chief advisor on gun control issues while Bloomberg was still in office. Of course, they could always go with Shannon Watts which would make many in the gun-rights community happy given her proclivity for both lying and making errors.

Rob- Paul has a speech, a lecture, a tirade, a tear.  He is about to espouse, advocate, lecture and pontificate.  Here is his rant.

Paul – Although not gun related Chris, one of our regular contributors of feedback sent us a link that he thought we would be interested in. For those of you who have been long time listeners of the show you know that we spent a lot of time covering the Benghazi attack we have had Anthony Mele on several times to talk about it. and even though we haven’t covered it on the air recently I have been keeping tabs on it. This week emails surfaced that thanks to Judicial Watch were forced by the Obama administration to be made public through a FOIA request. The Administration originally denied the request and Judicial Watch sued and won. The released emails show that the Obama administration was directly behind the changing of the story of the attack being about  a demonstration about a YouTube video instead of being what it actually was, a coordinated attack on our consulate. I listened this week to the Fox News feed on Satellite Radio riveted, as Retired Brig. General Lowell testified in the House of Representatives on Thursday.  General Lowell clearly stated that there was no attempt to assist the victims of the attack because the State department would not request help. One phrase sticks out in my head “we are trained to move towards the sound of the guns” Our military was refused that action. There was a 7 hour attack. Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton released a statement at 10 pm Eastern that September 11th, while the attack was still going on. I am not and never have been in the military, but having the limited knowledge of military that I do, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that in 7 hours WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING!

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Rob- Professor John Lott started an Indiegogo campaign to raise $300,000 to start the Crime Prevention Research Center. The CPRC’s goal is to counter the bogus anti-gun research that is being funded by major donors such as George Soros’ Open Society Foundation and the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation not to mention money from Michael Bloomberg. The funding for anti-gun research is aimed at going around Congressional prohibitions on using the Center for Disease Control to promote gun control as a public health issue. The Indiegogo funding will let Professor Lott hire additional research associates, gather data, and continue research on topics central to gun debate. $500,000 would fund Professor Lott’s the Center for a full year.

This research will help counter the lies pushed in the mainstream media by our opponents who would willing curtail both our gun rights and our civil rights.

Rob- I’m in.  Let’s give a shout out to every listener who contributes?

Rob- Louisiana State Senator Neil Riser sponsored legislation allowing active and retired law enforcement officers in good standing to carry a concealed firearm into any place open to the public, though they can’t drink or be on medication when they do so.  That is essentially constitutional carry.  The bill passed the house committee on a voice vote and and is expected to pass.

Yawn, another perquisite of having a badge, but here is why this is interesting.  Civilian concealed carry holders are less likely to commit a crime, even a firearms violation, than are law enforcement officers.  So if we’re trying to minimize risk, then civilian license holders should be admitted first.  Did the Louisiana legislators think of that?

John- You don’t believe Rob?  Two drunken NYPD cops fired their guns in separate, off-duty incidents and both cops were arrested this week. Officer Brendan Cronin, was behind the wheel late Tuesday night when he unloaded on a 47-year-old man who was a passenger in a car that was idling in front of him, striking the passenger 6 times.  About three hours later, outside a strip club in Somerset County, New Jersey, NYPD Sergeant. Wanda Anthony fired at least one round at a former boyfriend and his new girlfriend.  In this case, no one was hit. Anthony fled in her car and was then pulled over and charged with driving while intoxicated.

Earlier that week, off duty detective Jay Poggi shot his partner through the wrist after each had downed at least 11 drinks in the Rockaways, Queens, New York City.

John- Florida Carry has sued Broward County in state court for violating the state of Florida’s firearms and ammunition preemption statutes. The county has refused to change its ordinances which attempt to regulate the possession of firearms and other weapons in certain areas. Included in the Broward County ordinances are prohibitions against the possession of firearms, switchblades, knives, clubs, etc. by common carrier truck drivers.

Florida Carry is joined in a second suitfiled Friday against the City of Tallahassee by the Second Amendment Foundation. The city’s ordinances prohibit the discharge of a firearm for ANY reason in the city’s parks and recreation areas as well as any place other than areas zoned agricultural that are larger than 5 acres.

Rob- Some local politicians are smarter than those in Broward County and Tallahassee.  This week in Idaho, Madison County Commissioners repealed a ban on guns in public buildings as required by state law.  The Sheriff’s Office, Madison Memorial Hospital and other public buildings had been labeled as gun free zones.  The  signs are coming down.  According to Madison County Sheriff Roy Klingler, those who plan on committing a crime aren’t gonna be stopped by a sign or some lettering on a door.  In fact, putting guns in good hands can actually reduce the likelihood of mass shootings and other incidents.

Well said, Sheriff Klinger.

Rob- because Rachel is working today, I’ll carry this Texas news-  About 18 people showed up for a public rally of the newly formed Gregg County chapter of Open Carry Texas.  The group handed out literature on Texas gun laws.  Texas has 254 counties, so there are lots of chapters.  This is the fourth activity of the newly formed group in Gregg County.

Rob- John, what about your post “Guns In Schools Save Lives”  http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2014/05/purdue-university-homeland-security.html

Rob- Paul, here are some more statistics for you.  Sociologist Andrew Papachristos reported an important fact about Chicago criminals.  He looked at arrest records and mapped the individual networks between criminal gangs.  70 percent of all non-fatal shootings occur in networks comprising less than 6 percent of Chicago’s total population.  That means these few gang members are 12 times more likely than average to assault with a firearm.  It turns out they mostly shoot the ones they rob with and are arrested with.  That is why gun laws that disarm the general population of Chicago are ineffective, and counter productive.  I guess Everytown for Bloomberg money forgot to mention that little fact.  I’m glad we’re here to remind them and you.

Paul- Gun Quotes
“The police of a state should never be stronger or better armed than the citizenry. An armed citizenry, willing to fight, is the foundation of civil freedom.” Author Rober A Heinlein in his book “Beyond This Horizon” published in 1942.

Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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Segment 4 DGUs

John- When Keith Groves of Point Loma, CA heard a crash and then a window breaking at 4:22 AM on Tuesday, he jumped out of bed and looked out to see a kitchen window broken and his garage door open. He then retrieved his revolver and confronted a man standing beside his mint ‘32 Ford Roadster. It was then that Groves realized that he was standing stark naked as he held his revolver on the intruder. And that was the sight that the SDPD saw when they arrived. It was only then that the retired San Diego Fire-Rescue Department battalion chief was able to get dressed. Any comments?

Rob- One of my instructors said the police get pretty good at telling the good guys from the bad guys.  Standing there undressed is called a clue you were asleep in bed when the break in occurred.

Rob- Do you remember the Federal Express sorting facility where all the employees were disarmed, including the security guard who was seriously wounded?  Well that situation was avoidable.  Here is a similar case in Texas where a construction worker had been fired from a work site in the West Campus are of Austin.  The worker came back and threatened the foreman, and a police report was filed at that time.  Then the fired worker came back with a gun and shot at the foreman.  This time the foreman drew his own handgun and shot the assailant.  The foreman had Concealed Handgun License and was allowed to have his gun on the worksite.  Both men were taken to University Medical Center Brackenridge. The foreman suffered a serious injury, while the suspect suffered a potentially life-threatening injury.  Firearms author and trainer Stephen P. Wenger notes that the fatality rate of gunshot wounds in the US about 15%, so being shot does not mean you’re out of the fight.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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John: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
John: be aware,
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